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#26 2008-02-04 18:20:13

danb
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

giacomo wrote:

from the beginning I was able to see the DNS-323 and use Volume_1
then I use http://www.9to5mac.com/time-machine-
and I can see the Volume_1 on Time Machine but when start I have the error :

"The backup disk image could not be created."

Is the Volume_1 mounted?  I have to mount it after each restart...

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#27 2008-02-23 17:10:55

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

I am afraid that Apple has has screwed SMB support for timemachine since 10.5.2.
Read: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp … ID=5918065
Hope someone will find a hack for this.

Guess apple wants to sell timemachines........

Last edited by Speijk (2008-02-23 17:11:36)

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#28 2008-02-23 23:14:30

frodo
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

I looked at that link and I find nothing related to what you say. Did you link the wrong discussion?

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#29 2008-02-24 10:58:14

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Oops, you are right,
Just sone of the many reports I found on this issue:

http://www.macfixitforums.com/showflat. … ber=851192
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp … ;tstart=15
http://pastebin.com/f47499d34

From that last link:
After applying the 10.5.2 update, you can only back up to an AFP/SMB share if you've set up Time Machine before updating, or (obviously) a Leopard AFP server or a separate hard drive. If you haven't used Time Machine before, the initial backup will fail with something like this in the system.log:<br>
backupd[2262]: Starting standard backup
backupd[2262]: Creating disk image /Volumes/Backup/Macintosh_001122334455.sparsebundle
backupd[2262]: Error 45 creating backup disk image
backupd[2262]: Failed to create disk image
backupd[2262]: Backup failed with error: 20

This equals to the thingsI find in the log of my new MacPro. It still works on my MacbookPro running 10.5.1 and my old G4 DA running 10.5.2. but those two where using timemachine from the start of leopard. From reports I saw it will work if you configure timemachine while running 10.5.0 or 10.5.1., make an initial backup first and then upgrade to 10.5.2. On my MacPro I configured timemachine after upgrading to 10.5.2. and it indeed fails to create the image now. I will try to revert to 10.5.1 to see if I can get it up and running now.

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#30 2008-02-24 11:01:03

KRH
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

works fine whit me on 10.5.2 are you connecting to a hostname or ip ?


First user to fun_plug the dns-323.

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#31 2008-02-24 11:05:16

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

KRH:
As you can read it works fine on a lot of machines just not on the machines that had timemachine configured after 10.5.2. was installed.

I have tried both options, hostname & ip, no luck.

I can see the image being created, then after some seconds (the image already visbla in the finderd0 it quits with the listed error messgaes.

Some more on this issue:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp … ID=6667487

Last edited by Speijk (2008-02-24 11:06:32)

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#32 2008-02-24 11:11:52

KRH
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

yes it works fine on my macbook i reformated and updated and setted up TM on my dns-323


First user to fun_plug the dns-323.

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#33 2008-02-24 14:16:18

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

KRH, was the image created before, or after you installed 10.5.2.

Go into disk utilties and try to create an sparseimage diskimage on your DNS-323. On my 10.5.2. systems it fails. On the 10.5.1. macbook pro it works.

Just tried pointing TM to my old G4 and made a backup there. Then copied the resulting image file over to the DNS-323. TM still refuses sad

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#34 2008-02-24 15:15:13

KRH
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

im on vacation right now budt yes its created whit 10.5.2


First user to fun_plug the dns-323.

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#35 2008-02-24 15:22:56

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Hi KRH, then I am curious how you did this, and how you connect to the DNS-323. Looking at the amount of reports on this issue on the internet I am not the only one facing this problem. If there is some procedure that is failsafe to do then I would like to hear it smile

Edit: looking at your sig you seem to use funplug. Are you running AFP? This isseus is SMB only.......

Last edited by Speijk (2008-02-24 15:37:25)

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#36 2008-03-27 07:03:37

don
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

I have this problem too. 10.5.2 sees the network volume but just wont create the backup on my DNS-323.

However I just found this thread on macrumors and he used 10.5.2 ...
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=439304

It looks promising. Will try it later today when i get home.

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#37 2008-03-27 10:13:39

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Hello Don,

That is what did too. Just create the sparse-imagebundle yourself using disktools. Keep in mind making it big enough for your needs since MacOs cannot dynamically resize the image bundle on a SMB drive (you need a Leopard based system for that).

You also have to create the image on your Mac (make it small size) then copy it to your NAS. Then open it again with disk utility and resize it.

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#38 2008-03-29 14:03:13

Parsec
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

This sounds great, but you still have this nasty problem don't you:

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php? … 1706402296

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#39 2008-03-31 10:37:09

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Time machine cannot enlarge the sparsebundle on a SMD drive dynamically. This means you have to create the image "big enough". I decided for twice the total amount of data that I wanted to backup.

I have already suffered from the image reaching it ends, but the mac did not destroy all backups, only the oldest ones. I still had a complete backup. So I cannot confirm what they are writing in that post.
Of course you have to live with the limitations of this solution.

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#40 2008-04-01 01:52:23

Parsec
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Thanks dude.

I really want to get Time Machine working and my DNS323 has got 400GB+ of free space so it will be able to hold a huge file for the backup - will give it a try smile

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#41 2008-04-01 02:14:33

Parsec
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Followed the guide on Macrumours and five minutes later it's backing up the DNS-323. Great stuff smile

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#42 2008-04-19 17:11:43

3rdparty
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

I get about 200mb backed up initially (wireless - dns323 is connected to router) and then it stops and I get "Time Machine Error - The backup disk image could not be created."

curious if anyone else has had this issue?

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#43 2008-04-21 10:16:13

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Yup, that is what we are discussing here. Check the links in the posts.

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#44 2008-04-21 16:21:31

3rdparty
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

sorry I shouldn't have just skimmed the thread for the links.  I'll read into it further.  thanks!

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#45 2008-05-13 03:50:01

ipguy
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

is this still a valid method to use timemachine via a SMB share ?
when i try the suggested method of creating the sparse image and copying it to the smb share, a disk image is created and mounted on my desktop during a backup.
is this supposed to happen ?

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#46 2008-05-13 11:10:00

Speijk
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Registered: 2007-08-27
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Yep, that is what is does.

One thing I noticed: after the new image has been used by timemachine once, then I do not seem to be able anymore to increase its size with the diskutility after it it becomes full.
Anyone already tried this?
For now I just created a new, bigger, image and started from scratch.

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#47 2008-09-12 22:30:49

3rdparty
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Has anyone successfully done a bare metal restore with a Time Machine image on a DNS-323?

The beauty of running SuperDuper was that when backing up to an external FireWire drive, I could be back up and running on a different box in minutes just by booting the image/backup via FireWire.

More on bare-metal Time Machine restores here : http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/29/make-you … boot-iful/

If my MBP died, will the Leopard CD be able to see/mount/boot the TM image on the DNS-323?

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#48 2008-09-15 10:45:31

Speijk
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

Hi 3dparty,

I never did a full restore due to the fact that I do not backup a complete disk. I think that will not work anyway since it is impossib le to connect timemachine to the DNS during a re-install. Look at the steps you have to take to get backup working!
I only backup the "users" map. I have been able to restore users from the DNS succesfully already several times now.
This has already "saved" our small company once after the HD of a macbook with our financial administration had crashed smile

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#49 2008-09-19 17:12:45

scapitan
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Registered: 2008-05-22
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

itīs almost working fine. itīs making a backup now, iīll tell you...


DNS-313 / native running etch4.0r3 Thanks to CharminBaer
ZEN SOLUCIONES
http://www.zensoluciones.com  (Spanish)
http://www.zsred.com (Spanish)

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#50 2008-09-19 17:16:26

scapitan
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Registered: 2008-05-22
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Re: MAC OSX Leopard TimeMachine and DNS-323

itīs say that couldīt make a backup image

any sugestions???


DNS-313 / native running etch4.0r3 Thanks to CharminBaer
ZEN SOLUCIONES
http://www.zensoluciones.com  (Spanish)
http://www.zsred.com (Spanish)

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