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#1 2008-02-07 20:19:29

marmot74
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Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

I am hoping someone has some insight for me on this.

When I upgraded to v1.04 my network on my device has gone a little wonky.

For example when I move a file it will get a "file is already in use error" or "file already exists error. It is also really slow to browse the share.

Under v1.03 is was super fast and I didn't get any of these errors. I use the backup strategy of using rysnc from one drive to the other nightly. When it runs now it complains about locked file etc and doesn't backup anything.

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#2 2008-02-08 02:42:58

Fred from NYC
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

Did you reformat your drive(s)?

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#3 2008-02-08 02:55:06

marmot74
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

Fred from NYC wrote:

Did you reformat your drive(s)?

No, it didn't say you had to reformat going from 1.03 to 1.04.

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#4 2008-02-08 03:01:36

Fred from NYC
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

Just to avoid possible confusion, you don't have to reformat after the firmware upgrade.

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#5 2008-02-08 04:14:35

mig
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

Are these files, that have the errors, MS Office files (.doc, .xls)?


DNS-323 • 2x Seagate Barracuda ES 7200.10 ST3250620NS 250GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2 
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#6 2008-02-08 05:46:58

fordem
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

Fred from NYC wrote:

Just to avoid possible confusion, you don't have to reformat after the firmware upgrade.

http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?p … on=DNS-323

Perhaps you should be guided by D-Link on this - apparently unicode will not be supported until you have reformatted your disks, so if you do need it you reformat, and if you don't, you don't.

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#7 2008-02-08 08:29:32

marmot74
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

mig wrote:

Are these files, that have the errors, MS Office files (.doc, .xls)?

No, they are all kinds of files and it's not file specific as all the files do it after the upgrade.

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#8 2008-02-08 08:30:33

marmot74
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

fordem wrote:

Fred from NYC wrote:

Just to avoid possible confusion, you don't have to reformat after the firmware upgrade.

http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?p … on=DNS-323

Perhaps you should be guided by D-Link on this - apparently unicode will not be supported until you have reformatted your disks, so if you do need it you reformat, and if you don't, you don't.

The files are not unicode based.

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#9 2008-02-08 10:16:25

DoubleJet
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

After a firmware upgrade I always do a hard reset, same with BIOS update on your computer.

Before I updated to 1.04 I saved my settings using the web interface utility, then updated to 1.04, did a hard reset by pushing the little button on the rear of the DNS case for 20 seconds. This resets everything to default, then restored settings by using the previously saved file.

Give it a try, I think you will find it fixes everything.

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#10 2008-02-08 10:37:25

mig
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

marmot74 wrote:

No, they are all kinds of files and it's not file specific as all the files do it after the upgrade.

If every file has the problem, maybe something has changed in the definition of the users or
groups or share access permissions during the upgrade?  Check to see if the share definitions have
been affected by the upgrade.

Last edited by mig (2008-02-08 10:39:41)


DNS-323 • 2x Seagate Barracuda ES 7200.10 ST3250620NS 250GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2 
Fonz's v0.3 fun_plug http://www.inreto.de/dns323/fun-plug

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#11 2008-02-08 16:54:41

brdhse1
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

I may have seen a similar problem.  I upgraded from 1.03 and file sharing with linux was very flaky.  I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy and sometimes my pc would lose all connectivity to the 323.  Windows XP was fine with it, but Ubunutu did not like it.  I would be browsing a directory and all of a sudden I wouldn't be able to access the 323 anymore.  After waiting a minute or two I would usually be able to browse again, but this cycle would repeat over and over

I downgraded back to 1.03 and everything is good again.  I did not reformat after the upgrade, but I did reset to factory defaults.  What OS are you using?

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#12 2008-02-08 17:11:16

fordem
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

brdhse1 wrote:

I may have seen a similar problem.  I upgraded from 1.03 and file sharing with linux was very flaky.  I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy and sometimes my pc would lose all connectivity to the 323.  Windows XP was fine with it, but Ubunutu did not like it.  I would be browsing a directory and all of a sudden I wouldn't be able to access the 323 anymore.  After waiting a minute or two I would usually be able to browse again, but this cycle would repeat over and over

I downgraded back to 1.03 and everything is good again.  I did not reformat after the upgrade, but I did reset to factory defaults.  What OS are you using?

I'm a little puzzled here ...

Why would/should an Ubuntu system losing "all connectivity to the DNS-323" be considered a problem with the DNS-323, given the fact that a Windows system still has connectivity?

To my way of thought if it is the DNS-323 that has the connectivity problem, then ALL the external systems would lose connectivity - of course - if your definition of "lose all connectivity" differed to mine, which is not being able to connect at all - no http, no SMB, no ping, no ftp (if enabled) - the that would be one explanation.

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#13 2008-02-08 17:39:03

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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

fordem wrote:

brdhse1 wrote:

I may have seen a similar problem.  I upgraded from 1.03 and file sharing with linux was very flaky.  I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy and sometimes my pc would lose all connectivity to the 323.  Windows XP was fine with it, but Ubunutu did not like it.  I would be browsing a directory and all of a sudden I wouldn't be able to access the 323 anymore.  After waiting a minute or two I would usually be able to browse again, but this cycle would repeat over and over

I downgraded back to 1.03 and everything is good again.  I did not reformat after the upgrade, but I did reset to factory defaults.  What OS are you using?

I'm a little puzzled here ...

Why would/should an Ubuntu system losing "all connectivity to the DNS-323" be considered a problem with the DNS-323, given the fact that a Windows system still has connectivity?

To my way of thought if it is the DNS-323 that has the connectivity problem, then ALL the external systems would lose connectivity - of course - if your definition of "lose all connectivity" differed to mine, which is not being able to connect at all - no http, no SMB, no ping, no ftp (if enabled) - the that would be one explanation.

I said losing "all connectivity to the DNS-323" is a problem,  I did not say it was a DNS-323 problem.  I am simply providing another data point.  Because the new firmware has an upgraded samba server, I am inclined to think that this is a configuration issue with my Ubuntu/DNS-323 (not a DNS-323 problem).

I should have been more specific in my "lose all connectivity" statement.  I lose all  SAMBA  connectivity from my Ubuntu system.  I don't know about web, ftp, ping, etc. because I did not try anything but SAMBA during these disconnects - Sorry about the ambiguity.  It seems the issue marmot74 is having is a SAMBA issue, much like mine.

So, What OS does marmot74(or anyone else who has this problem) use?

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#14 2008-02-08 18:35:52

marmot74
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

brdhse1 wrote:

I may have seen a similar problem.  I upgraded from 1.03 and file sharing with linux was very flaky.  I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy and sometimes my pc would lose all connectivity to the 323.  Windows XP was fine with it, but Ubunutu did not like it.  I would be browsing a directory and all of a sudden I wouldn't be able to access the 323 anymore.  After waiting a minute or two I would usually be able to browse again, but this cycle would repeat over and over

I downgraded back to 1.03 and everything is good again.  I did not reformat after the upgrade, but I did reset to factory defaults.  What OS are you using?

I am using Windows XP. I also reverted back to 1.03 and all the problems went away.

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#15 2008-02-08 18:36:52

marmot74
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

mig wrote:

marmot74 wrote:

No, they are all kinds of files and it's not file specific as all the files do it after the upgrade.

If every file has the problem, maybe something has changed in the definition of the users or
groups or share access permissions during the upgrade?  Check to see if the share definitions have
been affected by the upgrade.

I don't really use the user/groups. The only user that is defined is my personal user and is has R/W.

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#16 2008-02-08 20:15:03

mig
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

marmot74 wrote:

I don't really use the user/groups. The only user that is defined is my personal user and is has R/W.

Well, the underlying Linux operating system uses user/groups to provide access control to files and directories.
And the SAMBA component relies on the Linux OS for ACL, too. 

You could try to look at how the passwd, groups, and smb.conf files are configured.  This would require telnet
access to your DNS-323.  If reverting back to FWv1.03 is not an acceptable solution, and you can get telnet access
via Fonz's fun_plug, then post the contents of your /etc/passwd /etc/groups and /etc/samba/smb.conf files here,
and see if we can identify the problem(s).


DNS-323 • 2x Seagate Barracuda ES 7200.10 ST3250620NS 250GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2 
Fonz's v0.3 fun_plug http://www.inreto.de/dns323/fun-plug

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#17 2008-02-08 20:33:15

fordem
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

Samba is not exactly my area of expertise - but - I was over in the D-Link forum where it was mentioned that with the new firmware the DNS-323 is now running SMB directly over tcp/ip and not over NetBIOS as was done in the past - since this represents a change of protocol which can be blocked by a personal firewall, could it be a contributing factor?

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#18 2008-02-09 19:03:49

david_halliday
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

I had a similar problem on 1.03 connecting from my Desktop machine (Windows XP) but the Wife was fine connecting from here Laptop (also XP). The DNS was very slow and file access very flaky.

It turned out to be something in my XP profile. Im not sure what, I added a new user to my desktop machine and it 2 could access everything fine. So I logged in as the alternate user renamed my folder in "Documents And Setting" to MyLogin.OLD and then logged in as myself. This created a fresh clean profile.

Now the DNS worked just fine.

I then had to spend some time brining my profile back up to date by copying files from the .OLD backup.

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#19 2008-02-10 02:07:29

leftkidney
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

guys the OS Samba was updated from 2.x to 3.x

maybe this could be the problem      a new OS ver could implement things differently and more efficiently so some things arent not needed like ti was before

maybe there is a new way to format the drives that causes the older format to act wierd and cause problems with this



if you havent re-formatted the drives (I know people say that you dont have to do this it works fine but...) then do so maybe it will fix the problem

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#20 2008-02-10 08:27:35

marmot74
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

For now I have switched back to 1.03 and the problems went away. When I have more time to mess around with it I will try again to get 1.04 to work properly. Hopefully for now it serves as a warning for some people that might encounter simular problems.

Mike

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#21 2008-02-18 23:17:16

mcduarte2000
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Re: Firmware v1.04 Weird Network Behavior

DoubleJet wrote:

After a firmware upgrade I always do a hard reset, same with BIOS update on your computer.

Before I updated to 1.04 I saved my settings using the web interface utility, then updated to 1.04, did a hard reset by pushing the little button on the rear of the DNS case for 20 seconds. This resets everything to default, then restored settings by using the previously saved file.

Give it a try, I think you will find it fixes everything.

I didn't believed this would work. But, well, I had already tried everything and I didn't want to go back to 1.03, so I tried your solution. And... It worked!

Just for you to have some idea, before the hard reset my ftp server was giving me around 20 to 30 kb/s, after the hard reset, I started getting 2 MB/s to 3 MB/s...

Last edited by mcduarte2000 (2008-02-18 23:21:37)

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