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#1 2008-07-27 10:56:57

Vmanjeff
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Registered: 2007-07-08
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Some info for newbies and Where to go from here??

After a LONG stint in family...er....heaven...I am back and with the motivation to finally see what I can do with funplug so I installed ffp .5 ....

I have spent the last 3 whole days trying to understand and learning by the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat...more defeat than anything else!!  But I have managed to get ffp installed following the link to the 'how-to' for .5.   i come from the days of Amiga and unix networking with Amigas and pcs...but I was never really good at it...Samba....I got it working, that's all I'll say......So I would say I don't really understand what is going on yet...
  Anyway, I followed the how-to and various links there and elsewhere and installed .5 (a note here...some sources say to chmod fun_plug.sh 777 (or at least 744)....some say to just put funplug .5 in the root dir of the 323 and reboot  -  I did not get the chmod thing and therefore did not do it but on reboot it installed!)
  I skipped the upgrade part as it was a fresh install.
  I used the XP telnet to o <IP> and saw the Linux prompt...didn't understand it but followed the how-to...
  I went to 'The Root User' section of the how-to and set a password.  When prompted for Login:  I had NO CLUE what it wanted until I reasoned Fonz's 'root' is the system admin on Linux sentence ment 'root' is the login and then the PW prompt appeared!  COOL BEANS!!
  I got logged on and then followed the how-to.  I started SSH and decided to leave telnet active by not including the 'chmod a-x telnet.sh' command (hope this is no a problem).  So I can login with either telnet or SSH with password.
  Again, following the how-to I did Lighttpd Web Server, enabled PHP and then the port swap/mapping trick (a question here...so now I have Lighttpd on port 80 it seems that the goahead web login screen will only come up if I type in a browser <IP>:81 ....And it no longer appears in My Network Places.  Can I fix this so it will show up in network places?  I tried to edit the goahead.htm file with vi (after about 50 hours of fumbling around!) but was nervous about an "HTM" file saving properly in vi).  Also, what do I do now?  Is it correct to expect that my relatives can login to the web server and look at pages I have there?  My goal is a simpler way for others to get pictures stored on the 323 other than through FTP...  they are very basic users and a web page based system would do the trick!  How do I get the pages in the www/pages dir?  This is when I learned that the ffp and associated dir's cannot be written to through the Win desktop!!??
  Most of my time was spent learning to navigate in a shell (if that is what you call it) or in the telnet environment and learning the dir structure (is there a Linux "list" command or something to show the files and directories in the place I am at in the tree?)  I also spent lots of time CAREFULLY typing in the commands and reading them to try and understand what they are doing.  Starting and stopping a service is pretty easy now even though it was daunting in the beginning!  I spent lots of time comparing what I saw on the telenet window with the opened window of the 323 on XP desktop.
  I did not do the OpenSSH Secure Shell Server as I do not understand what this is and I think the how-to was above my head...
  I did not do the Network time Protocol either for the same reason as above.  It seems .5 how-to is mostly written for people with SOME experience...
  I DID do the Mediatomb Media Server and am able to type the <IP>:94152 in a browser (DL'ed Firefox since Mediatomb said it was limited in Explorer)  I do not quite understand the line "http://bob:94152" Fonz has in the how-to......Is bob ment to be my IP address?  Additionally, after starting Mediatomb I saw that I did not have a correct dir structure for the media files...(this is where I force learned vi!!!)  so now I get to Mediatomb on my browser but that is where I get stumped.  After several stop, edit mediatomb.sh and start Mediatomb sessions I got vi somewhat down but I still have no files in my media directory.  Any help here?  Do I also need to edit the Mediatomb config.xml file?
  I also was able to get the additional packages from his FTP site.  Is my understanding here that I used some sort of download command to go to his ftp from telnet (at this point it is PuTTY) and download the packages and install them?
  I think I have come a long way in understanding what is happening and what I am doing but I am now stumpped as to what...or where to go from here!  I have followed lots of links to see what might be next......learn to config, maybe, a service??  But unfortunately the jargon used might be giving me the answer but I just cannot see it!
  Many thanks to Fonz as I do not think I would have tried all this if it wasn't for his how-to.
  I know this is a long thread and I thank you for your time and effort reading it.  If you can answer one (or more) of my many questions I would be very thankful!!

Jeff

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#2 2008-07-27 13:39:04

fonz
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Registered: 2007-02-06
Posts: 1716
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Re: Some info for newbies and Where to go from here??

Vmanjeff wrote:

Anyway, I followed the how-to and various links there and elsewhere and installed .5 (a note here...some sources say to chmod fun_plug.sh 777 (or at least 744)....some say to just put funplug .5 in the root dir of the 323 and reboot  -  I did not get the chmod thing and therefore did not do it but on reboot it installed!)

Because there are several ways to do the install, and because some Windows programs try to be overly smart, things do not always work as smoothly as they could. In principle, the installation is trivial: Get the two files from my site to your box unmodified and without changing their attributes. With Windows and/or FTP in between, this can obviously become really difficult. Just downloading the files to Volume_1 over the Windows network should work fine.

Vmanjeff wrote:

I used the XP telnet to o <IP> and saw the Linux prompt...didn't understand it but followed the how-to...
  I went to 'The Root User' section of the how-to and set a password.  When prompted for Login:  I had NO CLUE what it wanted until I reasoned Fonz's 'root' is the system admin on Linux sentence ment 'root' is the login and then the PW prompt appeared!  COOL BEANS!!

The purpose of ffp is to provide shell access and some useful programs. You absolutely need some basic Linux knowledge.

Vmanjeff wrote:

Again, following the how-to I did Lighttpd Web Server, enabled PHP and then the port swap/mapping trick (a question here...so now I have Lighttpd on port 80 it seems that the goahead web login screen will only come up if I type in a browser <IP>:81 ....And it no longer appears in My Network Places.

I think the network places problem is unrelated to the port swap trick.

Vmanjeff wrote:

Is it correct to expect that my relatives can login to the web server and look at pages I have there?  My goal is a simpler way for others to get pictures stored on the 323 other than through FTP...

If your DNS-323 is reachable over the Internet, yes. But there won't be a "login' (a prompt for username/password) unless you reconfigure lighttpd.


Vmanjeff wrote:

How do I get the pages in the www/pages dir?  This is when I learned that the ffp and associated dir's cannot be written to through the Win desktop!!??

This is the basic Linux knowledge, I was talking about. Files are owned by some user, and belong to some group. You can change owner and group of files/directories with the 'chown' program. You can also control read/write permissions of files with 'chown'. It's important to get at least a basic understanding of these concepts.

You might want to start reading here, and follow links as needed for more background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chown


Vmanjeff wrote:

is there a Linux "list" command or something to show the files and directories in the place I am at in the tree?

Yes, it's called 'ls'

Vmanjeff wrote:

I DID do the Mediatomb Media Server and am able to type the <IP>:94152 in a browser (DL'ed Firefox since Mediatomb said it was limited in Explorer)  I do not quite understand the line "http://bob:94152" Fonz has in the how-to......Is bob ment to be my IP address?

bob is the name of my dns323. Yes, replace it with the name or IP address of your dns smile

Vmanjeff wrote:

Additionally, after starting Mediatomb I saw that I did not have a correct dir structure for the media files...(this is where I force learned vi!!!)  so now I get to Mediatomb on my browser but that is where I get stumped.  After several stop, edit mediatomb.sh and start Mediatomb sessions I got vi somewhat down but I still have no files in my media directory.  Any help here?  Do I also need to edit the Mediatomb config.xml file?

Well done. Getting along with vi is a big milestone on the way to Linux mastery. But there's also joe, another editor that you might find easier to handle.

Vmanjeff wrote:

I also was able to get the additional packages from his FTP site.  Is my understanding here that I used some sort of download command to go to his ftp from telnet (at this point it is PuTTY) and download the packages and install them?

Again, TIMTOWTDI. You can simply use your web browser to download packages, many like to use 'wget' in a shell, I like rsync very much. After you've got the package files (.tgz) to your dns, you open a shell, cd to the directory, and run 'funpkg -i xzy.tgz' to install a package.

I know that there's little documentation for people who really start with zero knowledge. If you find (or write it youself) a page that explains the bare essentials to get started with Linux, please let me know.

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#3 2008-07-28 21:08:40

EnricoM
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Registered: 2008-06-03
Posts: 77

Re: Some info for newbies and Where to go from here??

I know that there's little documentation for people who really start with zero knowledge. If you find (or write it youself) a page that explains the bare essentials to get started with Linux, please let me know.

LOL, start with a book : http://www.amazon.com/Debian-Linux-Dumm … 0764507133
And after that, experiment as much as possible or find a job in this area....

It will take some time to learn everything about Linux, if that is possible . . . In that case use almighty Google.


Hardware: Conceptronic CH3SNAS, FW1.03 - 2x Samsung Spinpoint F1 750 MB, no RAID  - Imation Whizz 4GB USB Flash Drive
Software:  Fun_plug 0.5 beta, SSH, Samba recycle bin, Firefly, hellanzb, nzbget, cleanboot, chrooted etch, optware, midnight commander, rsnapshot

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#4 2008-07-28 22:14:51

fonz
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From: Berlin
Registered: 2007-02-06
Posts: 1716
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Re: Some info for newbies and Where to go from here??

EnricoM wrote:

LOL, start with a book : http://www.amazon.com/Debian-Linux-Dumm … 0764507133

"Get help on installing and configuring Debian/GNU Linux!"

Talking about books. Here's an online book: http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html (Chapers 8 to 16 seem relevant)

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#5 2008-07-29 05:42:23

Vmanjeff
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Registered: 2007-07-08
Posts: 13

Re: Some info for newbies and Where to go from here??

Thanks for the replies.  I have a friends Red Hat linux book and am reading that and will research the links above.  After going to a site in Hawaii for vi I saw it was not too hard if I just kept referring to the site as I worked...awkward but not hard!

  By necessity I had to install a new router yesterday.  I had to change the static IP of my DNS-323.  Will this effect my ffp install?  I would think it might only effect services I began to setup (Lighttpd server maybe?)  Do I need to vi some other files?  I CAN set the IP back to what it was but would like to stay with the new IP setup.

  this is all very exciting to me!  but I wish I had more time!

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#6 2008-07-29 09:44:26

fonz
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Posts: 1716
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Re: Some info for newbies and Where to go from here??

Vmanjeff wrote:

I had to change the static IP of my DNS-323.  Will this effect my ffp install?

No, I don't think so.

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