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#1 2009-09-04 01:00:47
- Alcatraz
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Unique problem or am I a lousy surfer or just dumb?
ok. I've spent four hours today trying to find anyone on the net with the same problem as I face now. My small experience tell me that there is always somebody else with the same problem: but strangely i haven't found anybody with anything similar:
Problem. I can't seem to access my dns-323 in my network. With my stationary computer I find my dns with the "easy search utility", but as soon as I highlight the device they options "configure", "language", connect and disconnect (for mapping the drive) turns grey. With my laptop I se nothing with the "easy search utility".
When I ping the dns I get response (works on both computers) so it must be connected somehow. But I can't find the device in the network by any other way I have tried (ip adress in explorer, mapping the drive from "this computer/tools")
I figure maybe there is something wrong with the network or the dns' settings, but since I can't get into the dns' configuration and settings I can't really do much about it.
I have tried turning off my firewalls without any result.
any ideas?
technical description
Win XP on both my computers
stationary pc with peerguardian
laptop with f-secure
home network with a switch (D-link 10/100 fast ethernet swith 8 plugs)
I just plug a network cable from my swith to the wall for to access internet, no router needed.
Both my computers and the dns have similar IP:s(two first groups of numbers the same). Both computers and the dns have the same netmask (255.255.252.0). The two pc:s have the same standard gateway (62.142.44.1), but the dns have another (62.142.104.1).
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#2 2009-09-04 05:05:01
- st0rm
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Re: Unique problem or am I a lousy surfer or just dumb?
I take it you've already inserted a couple of hard drives and formatted them... Did you try connecting the NAS directly to your computer?
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#3 2009-09-04 05:13:37
- fordem
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Re: Unique problem or am I a lousy surfer or just dumb?
Just a suggestion - try putting the computer and the DNS-323 on a more conventional private class-c network - purely for testing purposes - and see what happens - disconnect from the wall and set a static ip of 192.168.0.x, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 on the computer and connect it and DNS-323 to the switch - restart the DNS-323 and you should find it at 192.168.0.32.
I want you to be aware that your equipment may be on different "logical networks" ie, they may be attached to the same physical network, but from an addressing point of view, they may be on different networks. From your post you seem to feel that because the "two first groups of numbers the same" that the ip addresses are similar - but this is not necessarily so, in fact, if you are not using a class-b address mask (255.255.0.0) they WILL most certainly be on different networks.
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#4 2009-09-04 11:25:19
- Alcatraz
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Re: Unique problem or am I a lousy surfer or just dumb?
st0rm wrote:
I take it you've already inserted a couple of hard drives and formatted them... Did you try connecting the NAS directly to your computer?
Yes I did not try to run without hard drives 
fordem wrote:
Just a suggestion - try putting the computer and the DNS-323 on a more conventional private class-c network - purely for testing purposes - and see what happens - disconnect from the wall and set a static ip of 192.168.0.x, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 on the computer and connect it and DNS-323 to the switch - restart the DNS-323 and you should find it at 192.168.0.32.
I want you to be aware that your equipment may be on different "logical networks" ie, they may be attached to the same physical network, but from an addressing point of view, they may be on different networks. From your post you seem to feel that because the "two first groups of numbers the same" that the ip addresses are similar - but this is not necessarily so, in fact, if you are not using a class-b address mask (255.255.0.0) they WILL most certainly be on different networks.
You are right. They are on different logical networks. I did as you suggested and I actually found the device and could successfully access it
Now I want to sign an static ip for my dns-323.
With DHCP enabled my dns-323 get a own adress from the big mama router (which is located god knows where). It is probably because the dns-323 get too much different address than my computers that make it don't work with my home network. But with a static ip that cooperates with my network it should work. At least that is my idea.
I assigned an ip that is almost similar to my computers (except for the last number) and same netmask and gateway. The result: Easy search utility finds nothing at all... but I can access the dns-323 from explorer and I have mapped the harddisk via my computer.
I have the feeling that everything is not working great but definetely done som great progress. Let's see if the ftp system works.
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#5 2009-09-04 15:20:06
- fordem
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Re: Unique problem or am I a lousy surfer or just dumb?
You are right. They are on different logical networks. I did as you suggested and I actually found the device and could successfully access it
Now I want to sign an static ip for my dns-323.
With DHCP enabled my dns-323 get a own adress from the big mama router (which is located god knows where). It is probably because the dns-323 get too much different address than my computers that make it don't work with my home network. But with a static ip that cooperates with my network it should work. At least that is my idea.
I assigned an ip that is almost similar to my computers (except for the last number) and same netmask and gateway. The result: Easy search utility finds nothing at all... but I can access the dns-323 from explorer and I have mapped the harddisk via my computer.
I have the feeling that everything is not working great but definetely done som great progress. Let's see if the ftp system works.
Something you need to be aware of ...
The ip address you are using or at least, those you have provided us with, 62.142.x.y are what are known as "public addresses" in that they do not belong to the address ranges reserved for private usage. What this means is that under normal circumstances you do not have the freedom to select an address at random as that address may already be assigned to someone else.
Now - I have no idea how your systems are configured, but it certainly does not appear to be a conventional ISP style installation and so I am not willing to comment further than to say it is time for you to consult your network administrator with regard to ip addressing. You might also want to consider installing a router/firewall of your own, for your own protection - because at a glance it would appear that you are on a public network in Helsinki and anyone who wishes to can access your equipment.
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