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#1 2010-02-12 19:39:06

peter_m
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Registered: 2008-11-17
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Get a second DNS-323 or....

Should I get a second DNS-323 or is there something else better out there for the same price range?

If DNS-323 is still king of it's price range:
-what firmware should I choose?
-what is the largest quiet, cool running drive I can fit in there?


Peter M

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#2 2010-02-13 02:11:47

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

That's a good question. I've been pondering myself whether to purchase a new NAS. Key criteria would be: faster CPU & more RAM, faster network speed (the DNS is really slow despite it having Gbit). I'm also considering moving to a 4-bay device.
It's essential though that I can access it via SSH and compile my own software on the device.

If anyone's got a suggestion, let me know smile

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#3 2010-02-13 11:38:22

wortelsoft
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From: Netherlands
Registered: 2009-06-08
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

I think the LG N2R1D is interesting.
But if you don't mind the energy consumption an atom barebone might also be a consideration.

E.g. the Foxconn R10-S3 costs only 105 euro dual core atom no memory installed
             Foxconn R10-S1 cost 95 euro single core atom no memory installed

That would be a lot faster then a nas and you can run a full operating system

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#4 2010-02-13 11:47:50

Mijzelf
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Registered: 2008-07-05
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

If it was alone for the RAM and CPU the LaCie Networkspace 2 would be an option. It has 256MB RAM, and (I think) a 1GHz Arm cpu. It costs about 140 euro, including a 1TB disk.
Further it's relatively easy to get shell access. Just get out the disk, and change a few lines in the config files. (The OS, kernel and bootloader (uBoot?) are on harddisk).

Disclaimer: I don't own one myself, I just assisted in hacking one, via a forum.

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#5 2010-02-13 15:37:12

wortelsoft
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Registered: 2009-06-08
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

That's prety nice feature set.

b.t.w. the LG has: Marvell 88F5192 800MHz-processor with 128MB ddr2-ram

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#6 2010-02-23 21:17:24

peter_m
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Registered: 2008-11-17
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

Ok, I just ordered a MSI Wind Nettop 100 (atom barebone) for $15 more then a dnd-323.... off topic for the forum at  this point but  thought I would just let you know what I decided.

The unit has room for 2 drives but ships without RAM... but I had a 1G SODIMM DDR2 lying around so it's sweet!!! It's an actual PC so I might play with Windows server for educational purposes. For now looks like flexibility is no longer an issue, I can run anything I want on this puppy. It even comes with an internal Compact Flash socket so that the OS does not occupies any space on the drives...

Full Gigabit speed
Real print server
and then some...

I am happy. Thanks to Wortelsoft for the suggestion!
PEter

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#7 2010-02-23 23:44:44

Headcase_Fargone
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Registered: 2009-11-06
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

What kind of power usage do you see on those Atom-based nettops?  From what I've read of the Atom platform, while the CPU uses a very small amount of power the chipset Intel decided to pair it with is something of a juice-guzzler.

I've been really happy with my DNS-321 overall.  Flexibility, stability, power usage, the works.  But I know I'll be wanting to upgrade to a four-bay at some point in the not-so-distant future.  Hopefully there will be more options available in another year or so.

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#8 2010-02-23 23:53:38

peter_m
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Registered: 2008-11-17
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

Haven't received it yet but tests show 34 to 36 watts with one HD + one DVD optical drive.... Unfortunately this system only fits 2 HD internally over SATA, but with the USB ports, it handle more but not at the same speeds as SATA...

Will post back once it's all up and running.

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#9 2010-04-15 00:07:33

Marki
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Registered: 2009-07-03
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

If you don't want much storage, but CPU and MEM, you can try SheevaPlug - http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/ … #component or this http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/ … -plus.aspx .

Or if you don't want any hassle with Marvel CPUs, try one of these - they are x86, so standard binary software works: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm (but these are only boards without box and power supply).

With about 5 W comsumption I think it is good companion to the NAS.

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#10 2010-04-15 21:12:26

karlrado
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Registered: 2009-12-07
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

I have a SheevaPlug and am pretty happy with it.   I ordered it before learning about the DNS-323.

I originally had Ubuntu Server 9.04 on the Sheeva, but moved to Debian because Ubuntu is dropping support for armv5tel as of 10.  Debian is installed on a 2G SD card, using 1/3 of it.  I don't have any disks hooked up to the Sheeva, but I could attach one via USB.

I'm still noodling over what to do with this duo.  I like the low-power aspect of the DNS-323, complete with disk spin-down and the compact form factor.  I really like having two disks on my file server, one is a rsnapshot of the other and is swapped out monthly. 

Attaching two USB drives to the Sheeva will be tricky and incur added expense/power/clutter/failure-points of USB enclosures.  I would rather make the DNS a "dumb" NFS server and let the Sheeva mount the disks in the DNS via NFS and then do all other operations like rsnapshot, samba-serving, torrents, media serving instead.  The problem with that approach is the slow file serving performance on the 323.

Thanks for the pointer to the Wind Nettop 100.  (I have a Wind U120 netbook and am very happy with it.)  Interesting option.  But the reviews seem mixed with quite a few negatives.  Also looks hard to put two drives in.  Machine sort of looks like not-quite-a-media-server, not-quite-a-file-server, not-quite-a-home-theater-pc, but aimed at being a cheap desktop?  But having the low power, Atom, and choices for OS is interesting.  Love to hear more.


DNS-323 FW 1.07 : 2 1TB WD Caviar Green SATA : fun_plug: utelnet + optware (no ffp)

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#11 2010-04-15 22:44:43

wortelsoft
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Registered: 2009-06-08
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Re: Get a second DNS-323 or....

If you want it all have a look at this option:

http://www.pointofview-online.com/showr … duct_id=83

Dual core atom combined with ion chipset.

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