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#1 2013-01-15 18:51:18

beto6971
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Registered: 2011-08-13
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DNS-323 replacement?

Obviously we all here are fans of this beauty, but since the product has been Phased out by D-link and the support will end on 5/5/2013, I was wondering what would you recommend to buy for replacement (for instance if the unit is bricked) that can be also hacked and has all the support from a community like this?

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#2 2013-01-16 08:07:46

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

I went from the CH3SNAS (which is identical to DLinks DNS-323) to the DLink DNS-325. It's got a much faster CPU and 4 times the RAM, and I'm all around happy with its performance.
It runs funplug just as well, so there was no learning curve for a new environment smile
It's not very expensive either.
Then again, it only has room for 2 drives, and there's only  a single USB port, which is the major disadvantage for me (I have funplug running from a USB drive).

There are of course other options, like Synology stations or NASes by QNAP, but  they're all more expensive.

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#3 2013-01-16 14:25:37

beto6971
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

Thanks KyleK. That sounds like a good suggestion.

I checked amazon, and found that Synology DS212j is just about 35 USD more expensive than DNS-325, but has two USBs (DNS-325 handles up to 6TB, though). Would that be a good option too? Is it possible to hack that NAS as well, to the same level you guys have done it with DNSs?

Interestingly, DNS-323 is still possible to get (new) for US$ 350!!! Almost twice as the newer DNS-325!

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#4 2013-01-17 01:26:48

bjby
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

I suggest to get a raspberry pi or similair for more complex software. Keep the dns323 and similar devices only as simple network storage.

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#5 2013-01-17 06:11:03

beto6971
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

tnx for the suggestion bjby.

I still think that apps such as mediaserver, torrent client & ftp server (besides the backup ofc) make more sense to have it directly in the NAS where the storage is, to avoid the LAN overhead.

I agree Raspberry could be more suitable for apps like web server and others, but in my case all I need is the apps mentioned above.

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#6 2013-01-17 10:40:15

chriso
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Registered: 2009-03-29
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

beto6971 wrote:

Thanks KyleK. That sounds like a good suggestion.

I checked amazon, and found that Synology DS212j is just about 35 USD more expensive than DNS-325, but has two USBs (DNS-325 handles up to 6TB, though). Would that be a good option too? Is it possible to hack that NAS as well, to the same level you guys have done it with DNSs?

Interestingly, DNS-323 is still possible to get (new) for US$ 350!!! Almost twice as the newer DNS-325!

The Synology is certainly "hackable", from what I have seen on their forum:
http://forum.synology.com/enu/

I was thinking about getting a backup NAS just in case my DNS-323 ever went out (which does everything I need, I have custom stuff on it, but not all the media stuff), and I considered Synology.

In the end what I did is take my old machine, put Linux on it, make it a "NAS", and built up a new hot machine for my use.  Now I have a "NAS" that can transfer data at out 100 MB/s on my 1 Gb/s network.  I get about 14 MB/s on my DNS-323, but of course it uses less power and all.  But in the end I got my dream machine, which it 100% silent, and still powerful (AMD A10).

Now the new "NAS" is the does everything the DNS-323 did, and once a night all the changes are synced to the DNS-323, so if I ever lose the "NAS" I could just rename the DNS-323's host name and switch over (all my personal data comes from the NAS).  Except for the 20 minutes or so it needs to sync, the drives on the DNS-32 are spinned down and it basically does almost nothing, it should last a long time that way.

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#7 2013-01-18 07:49:03

unmesh
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Registered: 2008-03-26
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

KyleK wrote:

I went from the CH3SNAS (which is identical to DLinks DNS-323) to the DLink DNS-325. It's got a much faster CPU and 4 times the RAM, and I'm all around happy with its performance.
It runs funplug just as well, so there was no learning curve for a new environment smile
It's not very expensive either.
Then again, it only has room for 2 drives, and there's only  a single USB port, which is the major disadvantage for me (I have funplug running from a USB drive).

There are of course other options, like Synology stations or NASes by QNAP, but  they're all more expensive.

You could also try the intriguingly named NSA320 or NSA325 from Zyxel that are priced around the same as the DLink DNS-320 and DNS-325 but have beefier CPUs, more RAM, better performance (as per smallnetbuilder.com) and also run ffp.

In reading the reviews, the biggest disadvantage I could see was that the Zyxels require you to mount the drives on rails before inserting them into the chassis and the biggest advantage beyond performance was that they support Wake-on-LAN.


DNS-323 FW1.10B7 WD20EARS_2TB Samsung_HD753LG_750G FFP_0.5
DNS-321 FW1.03  FFP_0.7 (Spare enclosure)
DNS-320 FW2.02 Hitachi_HDS5C3020ALA632_2TB Hitachi_HDS721010KLA330_1TB FFP_0.5

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#8 2013-01-18 16:49:21

beto6971
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

unmesh wrote:

You could also try the intriguingly named NSA320 or NSA325 from Zyxel that are priced around the same as the DLink DNS-320 and DNS-325 but have beefier CPUs, more RAM, better performance (as per smallnetbuilder.com) and also run ffp.

In reading the reviews, the biggest disadvantage I could see was that the Zyxels require you to mount the drives on rails before inserting them into the chassis and the biggest advantage beyond performance was that they support Wake-on-LAN.

Interesting options. I didn't know Zyxel made NAS's, I know they make some excellent modems.
Their NAS seem comparatively better hardware-wise that the others. NSA320 has 3 USB ports, and in NSA325 one of them is USB 3.0!!!.
However, not very good reviewed by users in Amazon. You can see a lot of complaints for the bigger model NSA325, which is the High performance one. Still something to keep an eye on....

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#9 2013-01-19 22:21:17

Komano
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Registered: 2011-06-10
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

I was actually looking at building a NAS.

Was Looking at this as the main board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813131881

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#10 2013-01-21 21:53:46

beto6971
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

Komano wrote:

I was actually looking at building a NAS.

Was Looking at this as the main board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813131881

Wouldn't that be a bit overkilling for a NAS? I do understand you could do a lot more sophisticated stuff but at what cost...?  You still need to buy a processor, PC case, memory, etc. You would be actually building a server. IMHO it wouldn't be as power efficient as "tweaking" an already built NAS.

I understand the reasoning behind, though  smile  and it is tempting. Then again, you start thinking beyond the simple NAS.

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#11 2013-01-22 10:53:00

chriso
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

Komano wrote:

I was actually looking at building a NAS.

Was Looking at this as the main board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813131881

Boy is that ironic!!!  That is the exact board I bought to make my "dream machine".

I took my old main/desktop computer (Shuttle SN68SG2) and put Debian on it for my "NAS".

For my new main/desktop computer I'm running an A10 on that board.

Last edited by chriso (2013-01-22 10:56:36)

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#12 2013-01-25 08:16:42

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
Posts: 1178

Re: DNS-323 replacement?

Dammit. Now I'm really thinking about replacing my DNS-325 with the Zyxel NSA325. It's so cheap! big_smile

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#13 2013-01-25 15:27:42

beto6971
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Registered: 2011-08-13
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

You guys are not helping here!!! big_smile

Now I don't know where to go anymore... DNS-325? Synology 212j? Zyxel NSA325? Build my own NAS (small Lunix box)?

Building a Linux box gives you more control and features perhaps, but then you start using it for more than a NAS (the original purpose, right?). You can always use Nas4Free/FreeNAS, but I'm not so sure how good they are and it seems you need to be careful about devices compatibility. It might be a bit complex, specially as I'm not a Linux guy. Also a whole box would be more power consuming.

On the other hand, a NAS is and will always be a NAS. You can just hack it to your likes. All of the above mentioned are not so different in price. Zyxel has more features in hardware (USB 3.0 and 2.0) but user reviews are quite even between good and bad. Synology is best selling now a days in amazon and people seem happy, but I don't know if it's hackable at the same level as the Dlink's.  And DNS-325 seems the more stable and "hackable", but less HW options (only 1 USB 2.0)....

So.... my head is now spinning around...

Last edited by beto6971 (2013-01-25 15:33:50)

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#14 2013-01-25 22:26:35

fordem
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Registered: 2007-01-26
Posts: 1938

Re: DNS-323 replacement?

If hacking the NAS is in your plans, then build a linux box and be done with it.  Part of the concept of a NAS is to have a low cost (both from purchase & operating aspects) appliance that sits in a corner, and stores your data.

I bought my DNS-323 back when they first came out (2006) and after exploring it with the help of this forum and fun_plug, it's has been sitting on a shelf alongside my router & switches, backing up my data - I'm not going to replace it unless it fails or upgrade to something bigger/better/faster until such point as it no longer meets my needs - it doesn't even have fun_plug installed anymore.

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#15 2013-01-28 12:36:19

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
Posts: 1178

Re: DNS-323 replacement?

The Dropbox support on the Zyxel NSA325 is a real pro-argument for the device. I've always wanted such support on my NAS.

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#16 2013-02-28 08:32:17

unmesh
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Registered: 2008-03-26
Posts: 55

Re: DNS-323 replacement?

NSA325 also supports WOL


DNS-323 FW1.10B7 WD20EARS_2TB Samsung_HD753LG_750G FFP_0.5
DNS-321 FW1.03  FFP_0.7 (Spare enclosure)
DNS-320 FW2.02 Hitachi_HDS5C3020ALA632_2TB Hitachi_HDS721010KLA330_1TB FFP_0.5

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#17 2013-05-31 06:30:50

alexchan28
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Re: DNS-323 replacement?

Hi KyleK,

How did you upgrade your DNS-323 to DNS-325? I checked with the Dlink support and they told me I cannot just plug the hard drive to the new DNS-325 because it doesn't support EXT2
Thanks

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#18 2013-05-31 08:20:47

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
Posts: 1178

Re: DNS-323 replacement?

I actually went from the CH3SNAS to the DNS-325, and yeah,  switching was a bit of a hassle: I had a 3rd hard disk that I first copied the content of one of the CH3SNAS disks to, popped that in, copied the stuff from the 2nd drive to the first, and popped that in. (I'm not running in RAID mode).

It took a while, but eventually it was done.

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