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#1 2008-02-11 06:52:22

leftkidney
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help with connecting to DNS-323

I have 2 network cards on my mobo (it is the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe) and both are 1000mbps and my router is only a 100mbps so I want to hook it up to one of the network cards directly without the router so I can transfer almost 1TB to it without it taking like 2 days

I have set the DNS-323 DHCP server to "Enabled" and I get an IP when I plug it in according to "My Network Connections" but if I try to go to it using the browser it dont work

if I also try to map a network drive it shows up dut nothing happens when I click on it like it isnt there


someone please help me with this

remember I have 2 network cards and one will be used for the internet and the other for the DNS-323, I can get it to work if I unplug the internet one and just use the DNS-323 pluged into the same card as the internet was

I still want to use the internet just also transfer these files

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#2 2008-02-11 12:42:10

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

Do you have each network card on a different ip network range - for example - 192.168.0.x and 192.168.1.x?

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#3 2008-02-11 16:34:52

leftkidney
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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

I guess so since the "internet" one is 192.168.2.x and the other one directly pluged into the DNS-323 is 192.168.0.x

but I can only seem to get either the "internet" or the "gigabit" connection to the DNS-323 never both at the same time, and just to get that I have set the IP the same as it is in the normal configuration connected through the slow router 192.168.2.x but it for sure is going at those high speeds I have tested it with huge .iso files and it is way faster but the "internet" dont work even though it is still plugged in

also the web interface with the DNS-323 is way slow when connected this way which is strange since it is the gigabit connection but maybe because it is not going through a route/hub/switch     and I have tried a crossover cable it does the same thing but it dont matter since all NIC's now are auto switching and just switch the connections internally so there isnt a need for those corssover cables anymore

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#4 2008-02-11 18:49:39

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

Question

Your first post says - I can get it to work if I unplug the internet one and just use the DNS-323 pluged into the same card as the internet was
Your second post says - I can only seem to get either the "internet" or the "gigabit" connection to the DNS-323 never both at the same time

The first post suggests that there may be a problem with one of the network interfaces, but in the second post it seems to be an "either/or" in that both work, but only one can be used at a time - which of these is correct?

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#5 2008-02-12 02:49:46

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

both work but just not at the same time

sorry about the confusion

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#6 2008-02-12 03:07:13

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

Ok - they should both work once they are on different networks - by the way, I'm assuming you're using Windows - can you connect both, open a command prompt and do a "route print" and post the results - I want to take a look at the routing table, which is what normally determines which interface would be used for what.

Have you tried using static addresses on both the DNS-323 and the "dedicated" network interface, rather than the DNS-323's DHCP server?

Another thought just crossed my mind - which firmware are you using - and on the network interface that the DNS-323 is connected to, what are the NetBIOS over tcp/ip settings?

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#7 2008-02-12 14:32:30

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

FYI, your connection speed over gigabit ethernet will max out at 200Mbit, not 1000Mbit. Obviously that's a useful improvement, but maybe not what you were expecting.

The disadvantage to the direct connection to your PC is that the DNS323 will be hidden from the rest of your network unless you enable routing via your Windows machine. If it's a permenant arrangement, maybe consider a USB disk enclosure? Or a cheap 5 or 8 port gigabit switch? I like my Netgear GS105.

Edit: B -> bits; bits -> ports :-(

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#8 2008-02-12 16:10:50

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

sjmac wrote:

FYI, your connection speed over gigabit ethernet will max out at 200Mbit, not 1000Mbit. Obviously that's a useful improvement, but maybe not what you were expecting.

The disadvantage to the direct connection to your PC is that the DNS323 will be hidden from the rest of your network unless you enable routing via your Windows machine. If it's a permenant arrangement, maybe consider a USB disk enclosure? Or a cheap 5 or 8 port gigabit switch? I like my Netgear GS105.

Edit: B -> bits; bits -> ports :-(

I'm going to assume that connection maxing out at 200 Mbit is specific to the DNS-323 - gigabit, at least for me, does give about double the throughput of 100 mbit - which is neither here nor there is the grand scheme of things.

And yes - I do wonder why folks buy NAS units and then want to connect them to a single system -

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#9 2008-02-15 15:43:55

leftkidney
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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

well I have not figured it out yet I am working a lot as of late so no time to mess with it

but the only reason why I want to hook it directly up is to transfer 800+GB of data without tieing up my network for like 36 hours or so

I have already transfered the files by hooking it up directly but since it was really a one time thing I have no need to do this again

but I have noticed it was way more than 2 times as fast as before, more like 5 times as fast

not sure how to find out what the transfer speed is but when I transfered it from the DNS-323 to my computer it took at least 48 hours or more to transfer the 856GB of data, and when I transfered it back it only took about 6 hours maybe 8.  I started it when I went to bed and when I woke up it was done, like 6-8 hours later so it was much faster than 200mbps I was using the newest 1.04 firmware so maybe it has been fixed

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#10 2008-02-15 16:02:32

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

Pretty good: 255 Mbps if over 8 hours, 320 Mbps if over 6 hours.

Better than I've ever managed though my switch - but still short of the mythical 1000Mbps (1Gbps)!

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#11 2008-02-15 17:36:03

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

Trying to guestimate network transfer speeds based purely on the time it takes to transfer a given quantity of data is often an exercise in futility.

Yes - at the end you know how long it tokk to transfer the data - but do you know whether the limitation was the network or either of the devices involved in the transfer?

To look at the figures posted - 800GB/36hrs = 6MB/sec - I would guess the limiting factor was the PC at the receiving end, because I have seen significantly higher throughput in my own tests.

And on the return trip - 255 Mbps = 32 MB/sec, 320 Mbps = 40 MB/sec - my only comment is that's well over both my experience and D-Link's published claims.

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#12 2008-02-15 17:56:49

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

fordem wrote:

Trying to guestimate network transfer speeds based purely on the time it takes to transfer a given quantity of data is often an exercise in futility.

Sometimes it might often be a more useful number than the raw speed on the wire ... depends whether you're trying to characterize a network interface, or work out how long you'll have to wait before you can unplug your laptop and start running for the bus :-)

fordem wrote:

And on the return trip - 255 Mbps = 32 MB/sec, 320 Mbps = 40 MB/sec - my only comment is that's well over both my experience and D-Link's published claims.

Maybe as part of D-Links policy of continuous product improvement the DNS323 throughput's been beefed up since we bought ours? (I agree with you that the original 6MB/sec is likely not limited by the DNS323).

Maybe it's a good idea to check that all of the data got copied.

There are loads of folder diff/compare utilities. I use Synctoy on Windows, and if you create a folder pair with the source and destination you can use the "Preview" feature to compare the files in the two locations. Synctoy is also useful for synchronising offline copies of your data, maybe even keeping backup copies. I use Synctoy 2 (still a beta at the moment http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta … =en&tm).

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#13 2008-02-17 03:40:45

leftkidney
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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

I do agree that because of the differance in file sizes and the amount of them will have a big inpact on transfer speed

like when I transfer XBOX 1 games to my modded XBOX 1, there are at sometimes over 80,000 files most under 1MB each so transfering them takes way longer than 1 huge 4GB file would take

so why cant it do the 1000MBPS it is sosposta do?    is it s limiting factor of the DNS-323   and if so WTF how can this be fixed

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#14 2008-02-17 04:13:02

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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

First - 1000MBPS and 1000mbps are two different things - the networks that will deliver 1000MBS are now being built.

Second - where is it said that the DNS-323 will do 1000MBPS or 1000mbps - if I recall correctly it's upto 25MBPS.

Third - let's assume for the time being that the DNS-323 can deliver 1000MBPS - can the equipment at the other end accomodate it?

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#15 2008-02-17 09:28:52

leftkidney
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Re: help with connecting to DNS-323

yea yea yea I always get those MBPS and mbps confused

but you know what I mean



and what type of equipment does one need to accommodate that?

I have a new ASUS mobo (P5W DH Deluxe) and a quad core CPU overclocked not that that should matter (Q6600 G0,2.4 - at 3.2)

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