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#1 2008-04-08 14:52:53

Kappar
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Registered: 2008-02-11
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Internet Printing with DNS-323

Hi All!

After having installed my HP 1020 on the DNS (Again many thx to Dig for the neat how-to) I got the idea to share the printer on the internet. Does any of you have an idea of how to go about his? I recon I need some kind of printerserver additions on the DNS, but it's greenfield to me, so I thought some of you guys might have some fantastic ideas?

I have followed Digs how-to (http://dns323.kood.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=10825) but have installed the Fonz fun plug and added Dig code to make it work.

I hope to hear from you!

Br,
Kappar

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#2 2008-04-08 15:20:24

fordem
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Perhaps you could outline what YOU mean by share the printer on the internet.

Conceptually sharing a printer is similar to sharing storage, but at the same time there are significant differences, primarily the need for physical access to retrieve the finished document - so....

Who do you envisage would use this shared printer and how

For what it's worth - I can print to my shared printer (which is not attached to my DNS-323 - but which I figure I could do, if that were my choice), across the internet, from where ever I happen to be - but outside of the corporate world, it doesn't seem to be an ability that is in great demand.

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#3 2008-04-08 17:54:23

Kappar
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

hehe... Of course - i apologize for being unclear.

By sharing i mean that I want to be able to send documents to my printer at home when outside the wan e.g. in school. Exactly what you describe in the bottom of your response.

How do you go about printing to your shared printer across the internet?

Br,
Kasper

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#4 2008-04-08 19:18:46

fordem
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

I use a VPN - virtual private network - for remote access to my office when travelling, once you have that connection, it's like if you're on the local LAN, just slower.

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#5 2008-04-08 19:27:02

Kappar
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Yes, I thought you might be. Thx.

Does anyone know if its possible without having to setup a VPN?

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#6 2008-04-08 21:52:46

mig
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Registered: 2006-12-21
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

What you probably want is a USB print server that supports IPP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol
Internet Printing Protocol.

A quick google search of "USB printserver IPP" came up with the
following products

US Robotics Wireless Print Server 5436
Hawking Wireless G Print Server 1 USB 10/100 LAN IPP 802.11G (HWPS1UG)
AXIS 5550 Print Server USB/Parallel

among others....

Last edited by mig (2008-04-08 21:55:28)


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#7 2008-04-09 00:21:07

Kappar
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Exactly, and thank you mig.

But my real question is how to make my DNS-323 act as an IPP server, if it's even possible?

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#8 2008-04-09 00:26:51

fonz
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#9 2008-04-09 00:52:14

mig
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Kappar wrote:

But my real question is how to make my DNS-323 act as an IPP server, if it's even possible?

Well, this is certainly not supported with the D-Link firmware.  So, AFAIK
there are three ways to extend this functionality to the DNS-323:

1) Install a chroot (or native) Debian distribution and use the Debian package manager, APT to install CUPS
2) Use Fonz's fun_plug (most likely ffp v0.5-experimental) and compile the CUPS package
3) Use the ipkg optware feed to compile the CUPS package

It seems this is possible; however, I don't have any direct experience with IPP.

Good luck smile


DNS-323 • 2x Seagate Barracuda ES 7200.10 ST3250620NS 250GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2 
Fonz's v0.3 fun_plug http://www.inreto.de/dns323/fun-plug

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#10 2008-04-09 01:55:40

fordem
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Before we go too far - I think Hadyn had compiled openVPN to run on the DNS-323 - that might be one approach, and depending on what router the original poster is using, that might also support a VPN end point - it just might be a simpler way wink

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#11 2008-04-09 16:57:29

Kappar
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Thx for your suggestions.

fordem: The wrls and firewall setup on my school wan doesn't permit outgoing VPN connections (have had prior problems with failing citrix connections), so this is not the solution I would go for first. But thx for making me aware.

mig: I have very little experience with linux (i can hardly call myself basic user) - which solution would you suggest being less complex?

Br,
Kasper

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#12 2008-04-09 18:28:23

mig
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Registered: 2006-12-21
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

The least complex solution would be to buy a dedicated IPP print server like the
USRobotics, Hawkings, or Axis models.  You would also have tech support  group
from the manufacturer (although I don't know how good?) to ask questions.

VPN, either on your existing router with 3rd party firmware, on a new router, or the DNS-323,
would be my second choice, but that's not an option here.

The chroot debian install is described in the wiki http://dns323.kood.org/howto:chroot_debian,
seems straight forward, and I understand the concept, but never tried it myself.  With this method
you probably won't have to compile the CUPS package.

Fonz's fun_plug is very easy to install (I use v0.4), you would have to work out any compile issues
on the CUPS package. Fonz provides great support here on the forum.

I'm not very familiar with the ipkg optware feed, but there are several threads in the forum that
talk about optware issues, so you could get help there.

Each solution has it's positives and negatives, all the free solutions require some linux knowledge,
but this project could provide the motivation to develop your linux skills.


DNS-323 • 2x Seagate Barracuda ES 7200.10 ST3250620NS 250GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2 
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#13 2008-04-10 12:17:31

Kappar
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Re: Internet Printing with DNS-323

Hi mig,

Thx! I will make a try tonight with the fun_plug alternatively the chroot debian and let you know how it goes.

Br,
Kappar

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