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I'm confused. I log on to Vista with my own Userid and Password which gives me administrator rights. My Nas-323 is on my local LAN and attached to my Router via a gigabit switch as is my Vista Desktop. When I run Vista Backup and Restore to take a backup of my files to one of the DNS-323 hard drives I'm promoted by the DNS-323 for a userid and password. I haven't set any users up on DNS-323 so I type in the admin userid and password after which the backup proceeds. When I then try to look at the folder that backup has created on the DNS-323 from Vista I get message saying Access denied.
So I don't understand why the DNS prompts for a userid and password rather than use the userid and password I'm logged on under Vista. And why does it appear to then create folders and files on the DNS hard drive that is not accessible by me. This only seems to occur with the backup program of Vista. I can create files on mapped drives from NAS without problem and without being prompted for a NAS userid each time.
Can someone explain all this to me.
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Here is the thing. The DNS is not exactly prompting you for a password. It is prompting Vista, which sends your vista user name and password. Since the DNS does not recognize this, you get a prompt. By using the "admin" logon, you are saving the files as the user "admin". You cannot access them from the share, because your share is not connected as the user "admin", it is probably connected as the user "nobody". In such, user "nobody" doesn not have permission to access the files.
Easy solution, set up a user on the DNS with the same user name and login as you use with Vista.
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wynth wrote:
When I run Vista Backup and Restore to take a backup of my files to one of the DNS-323 hard drives I'm promoted by the DNS-323 for a userid and password.
No, like bq041 said, you're prompted by Vista for that - have you tried not typing anything in, and then the files will be written with the "guest" account, like the rest of files that you are writing and reading successfully?
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Yes - it's Vista that issues the prompt that is displayed - BUT - why is Vista prompting for this information? Is it not because the DNS-323 requests it - and denies access when the credentials that Vista provides are not recognized?
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fordem wrote:
Is it not because the DNS-323 requests it - and denies access when the credentials that Vista provides are not recognized?
Maybe, maybe not. After you choose a network folder for the backups a box pops up and insists that you type in a username and password. I think this is because the AutomaticBackup task in the scheduler is run with the System account credentials, so won't have access to the saved network passwords that are normally used when a user is logged in and accessing file shares.
I've not watched the network traffic to see if the Vista Backup tries to get guest access first, but it doesn't really matter ...
I've just created a guest writable share here on my DNS323 to do some testing, and I get silent access to the share if I browse it in the file Explorer, but I can't get File Backup in Vista "Back Up Files" (in Vista Ultimate) to use it.
If I start the Back Up Files wizard and choose a guest accessible folder on the DNS323, the password box is popped up right after I choose the network share, and it insists that I type something in to both name and password boxes. I tried 'guest' and 'nas1\guest' with random passwords, but that didn't work. (Remember it won't let me leave the password box blank).
Then I tried that again after adding various combinations of these lines to smb.conf and doing 'killall -HUP smbd':
guest = nobody # I think this is the default map to guest = Bad user # use this map to guest = Bad password # or this
(In one case Vista did say "Testing the backup location" but then failed a few moments later. There is a 0-byte temp file called sdtabca.tmp in the backup location now.)
The error text in the message box is
The network share could not be accessed for the following reason: The specified network password is not correct. (0x80070056) Please ensure that the network location is valid.
(This is the point where a lot of users type in their DNS323 admin password and everything seems to work until they try to read the files again!)
My conclusion is that Vista Backup cannot use guest access to store files on a DNS323 (even hacking about with Samba!) You have to set up a user account with access to the backup folder, and you'll have to type that username and password in to your Back Up Files configuration in Vista, even if it is the same as your Vista login.
Back Up Files works fine for me to a folder that is password protected with firmware 1.05, and previously with 1.04.
Hope that helps!
Sort of related: http://www.vistax64.com/vista-performan … 0b7-3.html
Last edited by sjmac (2008-06-16 00:52:31)
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fordem wrote:
Yes - it's Vista that issues the prompt that is displayed - BUT - why is Vista prompting for this information? Is it not because the DNS-323 requests it - and denies access when the credentials that Vista provides are not recognized?
Which is exactly what I said here:
bq041 wrote:
...The DNS is not exactly prompting you for a password. It is prompting Vista, which sends your vista user name and password. Since the DNS does not recognize this, you get a prompt...
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