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#1 2007-05-11 01:13:30

michaelhnz
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Dos/Win98 file access issues

DNS-323
1.02b firmware

I’m having trouble with my DNS-323 in regards to access from Win98 systems and Dos network boot up disks.

Under 2000/xp it works great
But from a 98 / Dos boot up disk while you can map a drive and browse the device
Copying files from it to your local drive will produce an error :

“the network resource is no longer available”

I noticed with the dos boot up disk option when attempting to copy a large file it did actually manage to copy 65k of it onto the local Drive before producing the error.

Does anyone have any insight or experience with this?

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#2 2007-05-17 04:57:15

michaelhnz
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

The offical D-link reply was that win98 is not supported however try 1.03 and see how it works
Reading the release notes however unless it has some undocumented features it wont change anything

anyone had any expirence using this with 98?

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#3 2007-05-17 07:32:06

michaelhnz
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

the really strange thing is i can copy files TO the nas from the win98 computer no problem
but cant copy it back off it

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#4 2007-05-17 17:27:40

fat_wookie
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

Hi,

I have exactly the same problem! (I was waiting for someone to reply to your post with the answer - no luck there!). I have also contacted D-Link and was told to upgrade to firmware 1.03, but this doesn't help!

I can also copy files onto the device, delete/rename files and create/delete/rename directories. I can't copy files from the device back to my PC.... (However I can retrieve small files < 50kb approx!!!)

I'll be a bit annoyed if I can't use the DNS-323 with Win98 as it does say on the D-Link product website...

"Safe-file sharing locally or over the Internet
Based on the Internet Protocol (IP), the DNS-323 is not tied to any particular operating system and is suitable for use in Windows, MAC or Unix environments. "

Pretty clear, I would think!?

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#5 2007-05-17 18:57:30

fordem
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

Where on the D-Link site does it say that?

What I see, both on the site and on the box is - Windows XP SP2 or Windows 2000 SP4 listed as minimum requirements, the user guide is different in that it specifies Windows XP SP2 or Windows 2000 SP6.

I assumed that because it supports SMB/CIFS sharing it would work with Windows 98, and that the minimum requirements listed were for the EasySearch utility, however I tried it with Windows 98 and found that it was not reliable

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#6 2007-05-17 19:36:01

phil
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Registered: 2007-02-21
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

Will the FTP method work for the two people here?  (Do not use the drive mapping method if it's Win 95/98, but just use the ftp method which is supposedly platform independent.)   

(Unfortunately the file date/time will be different when using ftp compared to file copy via drive mapping...)

Just a thought...


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#7 2007-05-18 00:39:01

michaelhnz
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

Unfortunately ..while FTP does work , its not going to be a suitable access method for me as i need the ability to boot of a boot disk to Image a computer from a ghost file on the nas.

Ive been looking at this another way however ..as i understand the device runs a samba server?
The mechanics of the file system should be irrelivent as that is handled by the TCP/ip Stack

So the problem is win98 unable to talk to a samba server properly
Which there seems to be more information available about

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#8 2007-05-18 12:41:51

fat_wookie
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

The D-Link website is here....

http://www.dlink.co.uk/?go=gNTyP9CgrdFO … JC+oUBA9/v

(I'm in the UK)

Nothing about problems with Win98 here!?

FTP works fine, as someone said... but I want to put music on the drive and play it back on the PC, so I need to map a network drive, not just FTP files.

I guess I'll have to buy Windows XP... ?

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#9 2007-05-18 17:22:49

fordem
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

That is certainly different to the US & Canada websites - I also notice that it claims there is more than one hardware version, but only provides details for one

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#10 2007-05-22 02:19:51

BobE
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

michaelhnz - I too have been using Norton Ghost to create images and then saving those on to the DNS-323.
However, I first write those images to a local partition, and then once out of Ghost move them over to the DNS...
but not using Win98 (usually XP or W2K.)  I just tried using a Win98 boot-disk and was able to duplicate your issue!
I can see the shares, browse them, but am unable to read/create files.
I have the following machine setup now that I can test with:
  Win98SE, 3COM PRO 100+ NIC, Norton Ghost 2003 bootable floppy (Win98 generated)

I'll run through a few tests to see what shakes out.

Edit: Using "Client for Microsoft Networking" to login. Both NetBEUI and TCP/IP are bound to this client. NetBIOS is also enabled over TCP.

Results:  Running directly under Win98, I entered my username and password to 'login' to Windows (both are valid on the DNS) and was able to perform normal activities (read/write/browse.)  I then rebooted and did not 'login' - basically just hit <enter> at the password prompt.  When I went to map a drive afterwards, I was prompted for a valid password.  After doing so, I was once again able to perform all normal activities.

I'll run through the DOS bootable floppy tests next.

DNS-323 • 2x Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2

Last edited by BobE (2007-05-22 02:37:57)


• DNS-323 A1 | FW1.09 | 2x WD20EVDS AV-GP 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM, 32MB | RAID1 | ext3 | ffp 0.5,  Samba 3.4.6-1

• NSA-220+ | FW3.23 | 2x WD15EADS “Green” 1.5TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM, 32MB | RAID1 | ext3 | External USB: Kingston DT1 2GB Flash Drive ( ffp 0.5 )

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#11 2007-05-23 03:13:46

BobE
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

Okay, this seems to work - I created a bootable floppy following the directions found on this web site:
http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/makedisk/

I was able to access the DNS-323 and my shares without a problem from DOS.  I need to dig deeper to see what might have been causing the issue I experienced the other day which mimicked yours.  My first instinct is an incompatability of some sort with one or more of the older client drivers (net.exe, protman.exe, etc.)

Let me know if you can use the method above to solve your problem.

-Bob

DNS-323 • 2x Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII (3.0Gb/s) 7200RPM 16MB • RAID1 • FW1.03 • ext2


• DNS-323 A1 | FW1.09 | 2x WD20EVDS AV-GP 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM, 32MB | RAID1 | ext3 | ffp 0.5,  Samba 3.4.6-1

• NSA-220+ | FW3.23 | 2x WD15EADS “Green” 1.5TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 7200RPM, 32MB | RAID1 | ext3 | External USB: Kingston DT1 2GB Flash Drive ( ffp 0.5 )

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#12 2007-07-29 16:14:51

schnitzelbäcker
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Re: Dos/Win98 file access issues

Hi there,

I had the same Problem, but I' quite sure, that I fixed it. Here's how I did it:

I used the fun_plug how-to to get telnet access to the DNS 323. The I edited the /etc/samba/smb.conf file in the following manner:

In the [global] section I uncommented (#) every line, except
     workgroup = apotheke
     netbios name = server
     server string = NAS
     encrypt passwords = yes
     create mask = 0777
     directory mask  = 0777
     force create mode = 0777
     force directory mode = 0777

addtionally I uncommented the whole [printers] section.

After that I killed the smbd and nmbd processes and and started the again (smbd -D and nmbd -D) to accomplish a config-file reread. When testing Network connection, I saw that the problem was solved.

To permanently save the samba settings I opend the webfrontend of the DNS 323 an dwent to the Setup -> Device page. There I just made a minor change and saved it. As a result of that the whole, edited smb.conf file was saved. So now I can savely reboot the DNS without loosing the edited smb.conf file.

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