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#1026 2010-03-18 00:47:31

andrew5368
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

I recently upgrade to Transmission 1.92 from Transmission 1.91 and now my router crashes at running Transmission between 5 minutes and an hour (it always crashes eventually), what should I hunt for to debug this?

I recently moved by DNS323 to a different house and a different router so this could easily be unrelated to the 1.91->1.92 upgrade, they may just coincide, but with older (1.80~) versions of Transmission I had no problem.

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#1027 2010-03-18 09:08:49

tc66
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Just thought I'd post a Little fix that other might have same isssue
upgraded from 1.72 to 192
upgrade ran w/o errors,
when i restarted I would get 5
/ffp/bin/transmission-daemon -f -g /mnt/HD_a2/.transmission-daem

normally I think I used to get just 4 back ground daemons
it looks to run OK I added a torrent it would start dn loading then poof ps -a no transmission daemons
I cd to default transmission dir /mnt/HD_a2/.transmission-daemon
I then deleted all the old
rm resume/*
rm  torrents/*

Now its seems stable

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#1028 2010-03-18 12:24:32

Frans
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

I get 6 transmission-daemon's running. Is that a problem?

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#1029 2010-03-18 12:53:17

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

1.92 added an additional thread that libcurl runs in to deal with all the HTTP connections. It's intended and nothing to worry about.

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#1030 2010-03-18 12:59:24

KyleK
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Registered: 2007-12-05
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

andrew5368 wrote:

I recently upgrade to Transmission 1.92 from Transmission 1.91 and now my router crashes at running Transmission between 5 minutes and an hour (it always crashes eventually), what should I hunt for to debug this?

I recently moved by DNS323 to a different house and a different router so this could easily be unrelated to the 1.91->1.92 upgrade, they may just coincide, but with older (1.80~) versions of Transmission I had no problem.

You can try and lower the peer limits in settings.json

"peer-limit-global"
"peer-limit-per-torrent"

global is 240 on mine, per-torrent 40. No problems so far.


Please test this also without Transmission running, to make certain that Transmission is indeed the culprit here. Maybe there's a firmware update for your new router?

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#1031 2010-03-19 08:47:13

beefy314
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

What's the fastest speed that Transmission can achieve? i can only get up to 2MB/s downloading multiple torrents. I have a 100mbps internet connection.

I know this will be a silly question but does the PC affect the download speed of Transmission on DNS323? They are both connected to the router which has a gigabit connection and a throughput of over 100mbps but my PC can only get up to 20mbps download(malware/virus?) of my 100mbps connection. So I'm thinking if my pc is also limiting the download of Transmission.

I'm using Net meter and even if my pc is not downloading anything, it can see the amount of data transmission is downloading

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#1032 2010-03-19 16:33:51

KyleK
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Although my line is nowhere near that fast, I'm pretty sure that Transmission itself can download as fast as the hardware around it allows.

Yes, the hardware can be limiting, especially on an embedded device like the DNS-323.
You should get higher speeds on your normal PC though. Did you try with a popular torrent like OpenOffice or Ubuntu? They always max out my line completely.

I'd advise you check out the official Transmission forums, there are a lot more people there talking about it, and some with as fast a line as you, probably smile

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#1033 2010-03-19 17:39:33

obveron
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

On a properly configured gbit lan with Jumbo frames enabled, I've seen 25MB/s SMB transfers to and from a PC and NAS.
Jumbo disabled, about 17MB/s on gbit lan.
Both those speeds are much higher than 100mbit. The NAS is quite capable of saturating a 100mbit connection, although i'm not so sure about transmission.

now as for internet downloads, your NAS will download completely independent from your PC.  you can shut your pc off, and the NAS will still download.  So your PC is not slowing down your donwload speeds on your NAS.

If you can get 20mbits on your NAS, and 20mbits on your PC, then i'd say you have a 20mbit internet connection.


If you are paying for 100mbit connection, call up your ISP and ask them, wtf?!

Where do you live, and who is your ISP?  100mbit is insane.

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#1034 2010-03-19 18:52:09

beefy314
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

True. With Jumbo Frames enabled, transfer rate from PC to NAS averages around 17-19MB/s

I tried adding more torrents to download and am getting a total constant download rate of 50mbps(6MB/s) from the NAS(3.5MB/s) and PC(2.5MB/s). Seems like transmission is doing good smile I'll try to add more torrents for Transmission to download and see if I can get more speed out of my bandwidth

I'm from the Philippines

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#1035 2010-03-20 16:38:50

Isildur
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

That 1.92 version randomly shuts down without any errors in log file. Trying now to catch error via running transmission in screen.

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#1036 2010-03-20 17:49:53

beefy314
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

I'm also having 1.92 shutdown randomly and connecting via web gui is a hit and miss thing for me using firefox

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#1037 2010-03-20 21:16:29

Frans
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Isildur, do you have enabled the watch-dir? It crashed only when using the watch-dir and adding torrents to it (randomly). No errors in log...

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#1038 2010-03-20 23:49:22

Isildur
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From: Kiev, Ukraine
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Frans, watch dir enabled, but there is no torrents now.
still waiting for crash in screen window.

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#1039 2010-03-21 15:05:26

KyleK
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Isiludr, beefy, Frans:

Here's an unstripped version of Transmission. We might be able to use this to figure out why Transmission is crashing for you guys.

Here's what you do:
1. Download the package, install it over your current Transmission install (funpkg -I Transmission-1.92-dgb.tgz should work).
2. Enable creation of core files (crash dumps): type 'ulimit -c 2048'  This will set the max. corefile size to 2MB.
    Note: This is a bash setting, and it's only valid in your current bash session. You'll have to start Transmission out of the same session, or no corefile will be created. You can add this command to your .bashrc if you wish, though.
3. Start Transmission. In screen or background shouldn't matter.
    When it crashes, there should be a corefile somewhere (although I don't really know where :)
4. Send me that file.



To others: If your Transmission isn't crashing, or you aren't willing/skilled enough to follow the steps above, there is no reason for you to download this version. The only difference is that the executables are much larger :)

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#1040 2010-03-22 00:13:35

Isildur
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From: Kiev, Ukraine
Registered: 2009-01-20
Posts: 59

Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Running in screen version 1.92-1 of Transm (not dbg) gave me "killed" string in bash window. Now trying to catch that error with debug build in screen...

Ok. I got that "Killed" after ~2 hours of seeding (last time it worked about one day).
KyleK, I PMed you coredump file.

Last edited by Isildur (2010-03-22 01:32:32)

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#1041 2010-03-22 14:42:32

beefy314
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Registered: 2010-01-20
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Seems like my transmission is working now. I think it had something to do with moving Huge amounts of Data from the two volumes at the same time using transmission and utorrent to save files on the NAS.

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#1042 2010-03-23 19:03:12

zuluwalker
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Registered: 2009-11-09
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Went back to 1.91 - 1.92 keeps crashing even with clean settings or a fresh install.

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#1043 2010-03-23 20:38:31

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
Posts: 1178

Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Hm, so what are you guys doing that I'm not doing? Transmission is running as smooth as ever here, not a single issue.

@zuluwalker maybe you could try the debug build a couple of posts above as well? I'd really like to report to the devs what is happening here.

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#1044 2010-03-24 13:46:19

andrew5368
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

KyleK wrote:

You can try and lower the peer limits in settings.json

"peer-limit-global"
"peer-limit-per-torrent"

global is 240 on mine, per-torrent 40. No problems so far.

I had to take it down to 50 but that's done the trick, thanks.

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#1045 2010-03-24 17:57:18

zuluwalker
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Registered: 2009-11-09
Posts: 27

Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

KyleK wrote:

Hm, so what are you guys doing that I'm not doing? Transmission is running as smooth as ever here, not a single issue.

@zuluwalker maybe you could try the debug build a couple of posts above as well? I'd really like to report to the devs what is happening here.

I'd love to help you and the devs to get this resolved, but unfortunately I can't help right now. I'll be away from my box for a few days and would like to have it crash and problem free before that... When I get back and have some time to mess around, I might. smile

Thanks for all the builds KyleK! cool

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#1046 2010-04-03 19:50:01

DigitalJer
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
Registered: 2009-06-18
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

Just to chime in; same issue as others, it seems - upgraded from Transmission 1.90 to 1.92 = Transmission won't even start.  It tries, I can see several threads launching within top, but then just dies.  No errors in the Transmission log file sad

...reverted to 1.90 and it all is well.

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#1047 2010-04-04 20:59:02

beefy314
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Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

I went out of town so I turned off my DNS 323 and removed the drive on the right(volume_1) which contained the funplug and transmission files. No alteration was done to the drive.

3 days later, when i got back, I put the hard drive back and now I couldn't start transmission anymore.

i entered the command sh /ffp/start/transmission.sh start

then I get the error "cannot create /mnt/HD_a2/.transmission-daemon/transmission-daemon.log: Permission denied

How do I fix this so I can use transmission again?

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#1048 2010-04-04 21:02:12

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
Posts: 1178

Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

A) Is HD_a2 the same drive it was before? If you switched the physical drives around HD_a2 becomes HD_b2 and vice versa. Check if the folder (and all the files) exist on HD_a2 and not HD_b2

B) change the permissions of the folder so that they belong to user 'nobody'.

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#1049 2010-04-04 21:03:19

KyleK
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From: Dresden, Germany
Registered: 2007-12-05
Posts: 1178

Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

DigitalJer wrote:

Just to chime in; same issue as others, it seems - upgraded from Transmission 1.90 to 1.92 = Transmission won't even start.  It tries, I can see several threads launching within top, but then just dies.  No errors in the Transmission log file :(

...reverted to 1.90 and it all is well.

This might be a hassle, especially if you have many torrents loaded into Transmission, but could you please try and delete (or rename) the old .transmission-daemon folder and set it up from the start?

The crash might occur because of changes in the settings files or the resume files.

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#1050 2010-04-05 05:40:27

beefy314
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Registered: 2010-01-20
Posts: 41

Re: [REL] Transmission 1.3

KyleK wrote:

A) Is HD_a2 the same drive it was before? If you switched the physical drives around HD_a2 becomes HD_b2 and vice versa. Check if the folder (and all the files) exist on HD_a2 and not HD_b2

B) change the permissions of the folder so that they belong to user 'nobody'.

Yes HD_a2 is the same drive as it was before and all the files are still present.

How do I change permission so that they belong to user nobody?

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