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#1 2010-02-01 03:20:19

funkigreendog
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Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

I have a dns-323 nas on my network. When writing to it I get about 10 MB/s on average, which although not the fastest I can live with.

However when copying from the NAS to my PC, I'm getting around 4 MB/s. I woud have expected at least the same speed as when writing, if not faster. Anyone else experienced this or perhaps able to explain it?

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#2 2010-02-01 13:19:51

fordem
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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Essentially, your complaint is that when copying from the NAS to the PC it's slow - let me ask you this question - how fast can your PC write to the disk?

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#3 2010-02-01 22:54:14

funkigreendog
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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Faster than 4 MB/s I would have thought. My complaint is that writing one way is twice as fast as going the other way. In benchmarking I've seen, the speeds appear pretty constant in both directions.

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#4 2010-02-08 12:19:57

Nosiow
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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Assuming you are using wired Ethernet, you could have a cable issue (leading to higher packet loss in one direction). Try inverting the ends of the cable between NAS and switch and same for the one between PC and switch.

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#5 2010-02-10 10:49:34

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Tried that, and have also tried switching all my cables without any luck.

One thing which may help with the issue is that it appears that using FTP I am getting pretty much full speeds as expected. Anyone have any ideas what might be different between ftp and normal copying through explorer?

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#6 2010-02-10 13:59:08

fordem
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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

To answer your question - SAMBA - not that I expect it to be the cause of your slowdown, but when ftp is used SAMBA is not, and when explorer is used SAMBA is.

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#7 2010-10-28 04:30:30

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

With a wired CAT6 connection, I get about 20MB/s in and 21MB/s out through SAMBA.  I'm using a Mac on OSX and I also enabled AFP (adding the large readwrite = 0 to the smb.conf file).  But, when I use rsync to transfer a 1GB file from Volume 1 to Volume 2, I only get about 4.5MB/s?  The 4.5MB/s was the same, before and after, I changed the smb.conf to "enable" AFP using this tutorial (http://dns323.kood.org/howto:mac_osx_users).

Wouldn't the local transfer between the two drives be FASTER than SAMBA?  I am reading this through the -vv option of rsync which dumps a lot of verbose output:

>f+++++++++ Software/Backtrack/bt4-final2.iso
      32.77K   0%    0.00kB/s    0:00:00
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       1.13G  71%    4.37MB/s    0:01:38
       1.13G  72%    4.33MB/s    0:01:38
       1.14G  72%    4.36MB/s    0:01:37
       1.14G  72%    4.33MB/s    0:01:36
       1.15G  72%    4.38MB/s    0:01:34
       1.15G  73%    4.42MB/s    0:01:32
       1.16G  73%    4.45MB/s    0:01:30
       1.16G  73%    4.41MB/s    0:01:30
       1.16G  74%    4.36MB/s    0:01:30
       1.17G  74%    4.36MB/s    0:01:29
       1.17G  74%    4.35MB/s    0:01:28
       1.18G  75%    4.44MB/s    0:01:26
       1.18G  75%    4.50MB/s    0:01:23
       1.19G  75%    4.48MB/s    0:01:23
       1.19G  75%    4.50MB/s    0:01:21
       1.20G  76%    4.44MB/s    0:01:21
       1.20G  76%    4.35MB/s    0:01:22
       1.21G  76%    4.39MB/s    0:01:20
       1.21G  77%    4.38MB/s    0:01:19
       1.22G  77%    4.39MB/s    0:01:18
       1.22G  77%    4.49MB/s    0:01:15
       1.23G  78%    4.49MB/s    0:01:14
       1.23G  78%    4.48MB/s    0:01:14
       1.23G  78%    4.49MB/s    0:01:12
       1.24G  78%    4.42MB/s    0:01:13
       1.24G  79%    4.46MB/s    0:01:11
       1.25G  79%    4.44MB/s    0:01:10
       1.25G  79%    4.46MB/s    0:01:09
       1.26G  80%    4.50MB/s    0:01:07
       1.26G  80%    4.45MB/s    0:01:07
       1.27G  80%    4.45MB/s    0:01:06
       1.27G  81%    4.41MB/s    0:01:05
       1.28G  81%    4.43MB/s    0:01:04
       1.28G  81%    4.40MB/s    0:01:04
       1.29G  81%    4.47MB/s    0:01:01
       1.29G  82%    4.50MB/s    0:01:00
       1.30G  82%    4.41MB/s    0:01:00
       1.30G  82%    4.40MB/s    0:00:59
       1.30G  83%    4.35MB/s    0:00:59
       1.31G  83%    4.29MB/s    0:00:59
       1.31G  83%    4.38MB/s    0:00:57
       1.32G  84%    4.42MB/s    0:00:55
       1.32G  84%    4.37MB/s    0:00:55
       1.33G  84%    4.46MB/s    0:00:52
       1.33G  84%    4.39MB/s    0:00:52
       1.34G  85%    4.36MB/s    0:00:52
       1.34G  85%    4.37MB/s    0:00:50
       1.35G  85%    4.31MB/s    0:00:50
       1.35G  86%    4.38MB/s    0:00:48
       1.36G  86%    4.36MB/s    0:00:48
       1.36G  86%    4.38MB/s    0:00:46
       1.36G  86%    4.36MB/s    0:00:45
       1.37G  87%    4.31MB/s    0:00:45
       1.37G  87%    4.36MB/s    0:00:43
       1.38G  87%    4.31MB/s    0:00:43
       1.38G  88%    4.36MB/s    0:00:41
       1.39G  88%    4.40MB/s    0:00:40
       1.39G  88%    4.35MB/s    0:00:39
       1.40G  88%    4.43MB/s    0:00:38
       1.40G  89%    4.44MB/s    0:00:37
       1.41G  89%    4.37MB/s    0:00:36
       1.41G  89%    4.49MB/s    0:00:34
       1.42G  90%    4.42MB/s    0:00:34
       1.42G  90%    4.38MB/s    0:00:33
       1.42G  90%    4.43MB/s    0:00:31
       1.43G  91%    4.34MB/s    0:00:31
       1.43G  91%    4.41MB/s    0:00:30
       1.44G  91%    4.39MB/s    0:00:29
       1.44G  91%    4.40MB/s    0:00:28
       1.45G  92%    4.43MB/s    0:00:26
       1.45G  92%    4.36MB/s    0:00:26
       1.46G  92%    4.40MB/s    0:00:25
       1.46G  93%    4.37MB/s    0:00:24
       1.47G  93%    4.38MB/s    0:00:23
       1.47G  93%    4.40MB/s    0:00:21
       1.48G  93%    4.37MB/s    0:00:21
       1.48G  94%    4.44MB/s    0:00:19
       1.48G  94%    4.43MB/s    0:00:18
       1.49G  94%    4.37MB/s    0:00:18
       1.49G  95%    4.42MB/s    0:00:16
       1.50G  95%    4.34MB/s    0:00:16
       1.50G  95%    4.32MB/s    0:00:15
       1.51G  96%    4.36MB/s    0:00:13
       1.51G  96%    4.31MB/s    0:00:13
       1.52G  96%    4.35MB/s    0:00:11
       1.52G  96%    4.32MB/s    0:00:10
       1.53G  97%    4.38MB/s    0:00:09
       1.53G  97%    4.40MB/s    0:00:08
       1.54G  97%    4.39MB/s    0:00:07
       1.54G  98%    4.43MB/s    0:00:06
       1.54G  98%    4.43MB/s    0:00:05
       1.55G  98%    4.46MB/s    0:00:04
       1.55G  98%    4.49MB/s    0:00:03
       1.56G  99%    4.49MB/s    0:00:02
       1.56G  99%    4.54MB/s    0:00:01
       1.57G  99%    4.52MB/s    0:00:00
       1.57G 100%    4.27MB/s    0:05:50 (xfer#1, to-check=1022/1381)

Is rsync reporting wrong?  Just doesn't seem right.

Last edited by bound4h (2010-10-28 04:32:41)

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#8 2010-10-28 13:10:09

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Are you using jumbo packets on your network and is it supported by your switch?

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#9 2010-10-28 15:15:17

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Yes and Yes.  9000

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#10 2010-10-28 16:07:52

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

bound4h wrote:

Is rsync reporting wrong?  Just doesn't seem right.

It is probably rsync is very processing intensive, espacially with small files..

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#11 2010-10-28 17:36:52

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

That makes sense.

Does anyone know a good benchmark tool for NAS speed (throughput, bandwidth, etc) for a Mac?  I know of the NAS Performance tool, but it's for windows I believe.

Thanks

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#12 2010-10-28 18:00:07

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

We're running rsync ON the DNS-323, and not on another host,  right?  I'm a little confused with all the talk about shares and samba, when someone is talking in terms of a "local transfer between two drives".

I also get in the neighborhood of 3-4 MB/s when I run rsync on the 323, syncing files from one DNS-323 disk to the other DNS-323 disk.

The reason is the 'r' in rsync. 

rsync is NOT optimized or intended for local file copies.  If you look at the process list with 'top' while rsync is running in this fashion, you'll see that rsync started two other rsync processes, one doing the reading and the other doing the writing.  The file data is probably flowing though an IPC mechanism between these two processes.  And the two processes are using nearly 100% of the CPU, between the two of them.

So, if performance is the goal, rsync is not the tool for this job.

You can just let it run and do its thing, which is how most people do backups and so performance is not that big a deal.  Or you can do an initial copy of the files yourself with cp or whatever to get the files over quicker, if it is that important.


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#13 2010-10-28 18:49:06

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

That makes sense, thanks.  Yea, I read somewhere there the sender, receiver and generator.  So it makes sense that it is splitting the load somehow.  I don't really care how fast rsync transfers, but what I did was infer that since rsync is copying that slow then if I did a 'cp /mnt/HD_a2/test.iso /mnt/HD_b2' then the speed would also be 4MB/s.

Hopefully this isn't the case, but I have no real way of testing the actual throughput without a utility.  Oh well.

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#14 2010-10-28 19:13:33

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Just time it with the wall clock or the time command and then divide the file size by the time.

time cp bigfile /mnt/HD_b2

I got about 6MB/sec for a 1G test file.  Seems slow, but I don't have time to worry about it now.  The bottleneck is probably the controller as it is dealing with I/O to both disks.  CPU was about 25%.


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#15 2010-10-28 21:21:52

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

Good call.  I used the time command and divided by the file size.  After 3 runs I'm getting an average of 21MB/s.  So that sounds about right.

Thank you guys

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#16 2010-10-29 00:54:34

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Re: Slow reads from DNS-323 to PC

OK, I am really getting close to 20MB/s.  I had a SMART test running on the destination drive when I measured it that time.  Oops!


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