Unfortunately no one can be told what fun_plug is - you have to see it for yourself.
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What's new:
-kernel 2.6.36.2, nfs-utils back to version 1.2.1
-terse report from vaughnd12 confirms that rev-A1 boards are now working.
(tanks to Philster76 and KRH for initial testing)
-partitioning and filesystem web pages spliced and RAID web page created
-Filesystems, RAID, and Partitioner web pages are now simpler
-Disk Partitioner and Wizard now unconditionally aligns partitions on 4K boundaries
-Disk Partitioner now has an advanced mode
-Directory Browser web page with enhanced (but slow) browsing and
with directory copy/cut/move/create/delete capabilities
-Directory Ownership and Access Permissions web page
-backup support and Backup Manager administering web pages (preliminary)
backups local directories and directories mounted by NFS/CIFS
-Remote syslog support and administering web pages (contribution from Augusto Bott)
-Firmware updater web page now enables recovering original vendor's settings from backup
(untested if effective, there are some differences between backup and original)
-Status web page only shows what exists
-Spaces allowed in paths in /etc/fstab and /etc/exports (use\040as\040space)
and processed by smb and nfs web pages. NFS complains but works.
mounts by filesystem labels still replace spaces with underscores.
-Speed improvement in web pages that deals with disk
-Countless improvements and bug fixes.
-Users with an Alt-F flashed box should use the *TryIt* option in the Firmware Updater
web page before actually flashing it, as incompatibilities might happen. Its Beta!
-There are a few identified incompatibilities between B5 and B6. If you have only slightly
changed settings, the recommended procedure is to clear settings before starting using.
If you dont' want to clean settings, the file Alt-F_B5_to_B6.fix script tries to fixes them.
Before using or flashing Alt-F-01.B6, telnet/ssh the box, and execute the script.
After doing it don't save settings until start using B6. Other incompatibilities might arise.
I will now start updating disk-installable packages and fix 0.1B6 reported bugs.
No more features are expected in the base firmware, but (micro)emacs and ncurses
will be removed and turned into packages.
Hopefully the next release will be 0.1
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So what is the procedure in overwriting the b5. Dont want to screw it up again ?
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krenkey wrote:
So what is the procedure in overwriting the b5. Dont want to screw it up again ?
-Are you running a flashed B5?
In the web pages go to System->Firmware, upload the Alt-F-0.1B6.bin and hit the *tryIt* button. Try it for a while. Did B6 work fine? Go again to System->Firmware, upload Alt-F-0.1B6.bin again and hit the *FlashIt* button. But keep reading.
-Or are you running the "reloaded" B5?
Drop the Alt-F-0.1B6.tar file in the same directory where the fun_plug is and reboot the box. But keep reading.
There is a script, Alt-F_B5_to_B6.fix, that can be run to smooth the upgrade process, but it has to be used while still using B5: download it to the box, say to /mnt/sda3, then telnet/ssh the box and execute it, typing at the command line
sh /mnt/sda3/Alt-F_B5_to_B6.fix
Write down any message that it produces, if any.
The scripts success depends on how much modifications you have done to the system configuration, as it assumes a standard setup with only with small modifications.
If the script does not succeed the only consequences are that you will have to do some adjustments manually afterward.
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hey thanks do i need to remove the alt-b5 first
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krenkey wrote:
hey thanks do i need to remove the alt-b5 first
You mean, you are "reloading" Alt-F and you are talking of the the directory named "alt-f" right? (*)
No. You don't need to remove neither the "alt-f" directory nor the existing fun_plug file. Just put there the new Alt-F-0.1B6.tar file.
And if you latter want to go back to B5, just drop there the Alt-F-0.1B5.tar file.
When the fun_plug script detects a new Alt-F-*.tar it extracts it to a directory named "alt-f", overriding its contents.
But I have not tried it myself, and I don't know what the vendors tar exactly does.
(*)-You have to give exact details about your present situation and what you intent to do, or else you risk a wrong answer
PS-I will be unreachable until January 4
Last edited by jcard (2010-12-22 03:19:40)
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No probs bud i got er all done love it and thanks for all the hard work
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I am a Linux noob, just flashed (Not reloaded) my B1 with Alt-F-0.1B6, to use external storage with the USB port is under which option? or which package should I need to install prior?
Possible or not to shut down the PC during the data transmission in between the B1 and external storage through USB port?
Last edited by kncgcg (2010-12-28 19:31:54)
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No chance to run 0.1B6 on my 1.09 DNS-323 (modified CH3SNAS)...
WIKI:
3-If you have ffp,
3-a) Just want to try Alt-F every now and then:
Download Alt-F-<version>.tar and fun_plug, rename the downloaded
fun_plug to, e.g, alt-f.sh, put them in your box root directory, and
execute alt-f.sh from the shell command line.
WIKI-OFF
When i start the script (alt-f.sh) in shell > Putty tells:
chown -R nobody:nobody alt-f
>>chown -R user/group nobody unknown
after this the NAS hangs.....
WIKI:
1-If you don't have ffp or a fun_plug file in your box root directory,
or you don't even know what that means, just download "Alt-F-<version>.tar"
and "fun_plug" into your box root directory, make sure that "fun_plug" has
execution permission and reboot.
-This will only work once; if you want to try again, you must set the execution
permissions of fun_plug again.
WIKI OFF
Also when i try to boot Alt-F for one time..... it hangs...
bootlog:
$Shutting down SMB services:
$Shutting down NMB services:
PID Uid VmSize Stat Command
1 root 288 S init
2 root SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
3 root SW< [events/0]
4 root SW< [khelper]
5 root SW< [kthread]
11 root SW< [kblockd/0]
14 root SW [khubd]
49 root SW [pdflush]
52 root SW< [aio/0]
51 root SW [kswapd0]
189 root SW [scsi_eh_0]
190 root SW [scsi_eh_1]
197 root SW [mtdblockd]
214 root SW< [kcryptd/0]
215 root SW< [kmirrord/0]
226 root SW< [loop0]
1404 root 440 S chkbutton
1432 root 360 S /bin/sh /usr/sbin/chk_fun_plug
1456 root 276 S fancontrol 0
1487 root 304 S -sh
1675 root SW [pdflush]
1681 root 364 S /bin/sh /mnt/HD_a2/fun_plug
1855 root 284 R ps
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 61812 46012 15800 0 15408
Swap: 530104 0 530104
Total: 591916 46012 545904
Last edited by Technikfan1971 (2010-12-28 15:31:56)
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Looks like not enough free memory, pretty standard issue.
You need to make sure nothing is running on the box. This means:
firmware services like itunes server, unpnp etc
add-ons like bonjour or firefly or torrent
ffp packages like errr any of them, ssh even, (leave telnet just in case),
then reboot and try again.
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I only registered to say thank you jcard
Now i can buy a third 1,5tb disk and convert to a raid5, which will give me 3tb for 60. Without your firmware i would have paid much more
Your firmware made that possible
( and, i feel much more safe about my data because i can use ssh to look what the device does. )
Thanks!
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i was thinking about putting alt-f firmware on my nas. cause original firmware has been corrupted or something
couple questions
seen this already answered but want to make sure cause of importance. by running alt-f over top of original firmware, i will NOT lose data on disk yes???
does alt-f come with a DLNA server installed? or do i need to install? and if so...how? i read about creating packages but had no idea how to
and with alt-f can i install other packages of my choice? like audio streaming services
Thanks
RellikZephyr
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Running alt-f won't erase data on the disk. However in theory it could brick your box perhaps. I would suggest getting it working in the re-loaded fashion first to check if all is ok. (anyone want to correct me on that advice?)
miniDLNA is one of the alt-f packages. It can easily be installed via the web admin pages. However it's not working for me in B6 out of the box, so I think it needs a little bit of tweaking by Joao (hopefully back shortly). I have had it working in B5 so I would expect all will be ok with it in the near future.
Alt-f supplies a number of built in packages (not all working currently) plus the ability to easily install ffp packages via the web admin pages, so there are a lot of options. Adding your own which are not currently included is a rather more serious task...beyond my ability for example.
Worth popping in to the discussion forums on the alt-f site.
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I've installed Alt-f on my DNS-323 as a firmware.
I'm liking the ext4 options.. but how do I get sabnzbd to run??
Or better said how do I get DEBNAS to boot???
Apparently there isn't any sabnzbd version for ffp or alt-f modules.
I dont want to brick my box. so whats the best way to bring up debnas after I installed alt-f ?
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kncgcg wrote:
I am a Linux noob, just flashed (Not reloaded) my B1 with Alt-F-0.1B6, to use external storage with the USB port is under which option? or which package should I need to install prior?
You only need to plug the external usb storage to the box usb back connector, be it a disk or a pen, and it will be detected and mounted. You can see it in the status page and manipulate it, if you want to, under any of the disk menu entry.
You can also browse and manipulated its directories using the Setup->Directories menu entry
If you don't see the external usb device, take a look at the bottom of System->Utilities->View Logs->Kernel log and post it.
Possible or not to shut down the PC during the data transmission in between the B1 and external storage through USB port?
Yes, you can poweroff the PC, the dns is a computer in its own.
But you have to initiate the process that you want to happen.
What do you want to do? Do you want to to do backups from the internal disk to the usb disk?
If that is what you want, go to Services->System->Backup->Configure and add an entry.
Your external usb disk has to be powered up at the schedule backup time.
Sorry to answer so late, but I'v been away.
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rellikzephyr wrote:
i was thinking about putting alt-f firmware on my nas. cause original firmware has been corrupted or something
couple questions
seen this already answered but want to make sure cause of importance. by running alt-f over top of original firmware, i will NOT lose data on disk yes???
No, Alt-F will not touch your disks data unless you tell it to do so.
But Alt-F will do a filesystem check (fsck) on your filesystems, and will try to correct any inconsistencies it finds.
This is the standard procedure on *any* linux machine.
If fsck can't automatically fix the inconsistencies, the filesystem will be mounted read-only.
But to not throw the dust under the rug, the shipped COPYING file, which is GPL, says:
NO WARRANTY
11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY
FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN
OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES
PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED
OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS
TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE
PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING,
REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
12. IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING
WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR
REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES,
INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING
OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED
TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY
YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER
PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
It is not written in small letters and is not 25 pages long, and even with dlink firmware some users report data loss. ;-)
That said, no user has untill now complained of any data loss.
does alt-f come with a DLNA server installed? or do i need to install? and if so...how? i read about creating packages but had no idea how to
and with alt-f can i install other packages of my choice? like audio streaming services
Thanks
RellikZephyr
Yes, there are media server packages for you to download and install using the web interface. Some of them are not fully working, but I'm working on that.
See http://sites.google.com/site/altfirmware/home/packages and
http://www.inreto.de/dns323/fun-plug/0.5/PACKAGES.html for available disk-installable packages.
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haim wrote:
Running alt-f won't erase data on the disk. However in theory it could brick your box perhaps. I would suggest getting it working in the re-loaded fashion first to check if all is ok. (anyone want to correct me on that advice?)
Just to say that bricking can only occur when flashing Alt-F, not when "reloading" it.
And when you flash Alt-F you are taking the same risk as when you upgrade the vendor's firmware.
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AciDCooL wrote:
I've installed Alt-f on my DNS-323 as a firmware.
I'm liking the ext4 options.. but how do I get sabnzbd to run??
Or better said how do I get DEBNAS to boot???
Apparently there isn't any sabnzbd version for ffp or alt-f modules.
I dont want to brick my box. so whats the best way to bring up debnas after I installed alt-f ?
I have (not yet?) created a Debian distro Alt-F package
debnas installation relies on the fun_plug script being run by the vendors firmware at startup.
Alt-F does not runs any fun_plug script file, so you have to run it manually.
But debnas also assumes disk to be mounted at /mnt/HD_A2, which Alt-F does not.
Perhaps you could create a link from /mnt/sda2 to /mnt/HD_A2?
I'm afraid that this subject is out of Alt-F scope.
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I have a /mnt/md0 because im using JBOD.
I've edited the fun_plug script but it won't boot
I can make a symlink to that dir but how can I run it manually?
Edit: Ah I think I know what u mean but the fun_plug script from DEBNAS only untars it to the root of the disk, so then it expects the firmware to boot it or what is the expected behaviour?
Last edited by AciDCooL (2011-01-06 21:57:55)
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Flashed alt-f b6 bricked my nas(A1 hw)... upgrade from b5 w/ resetting settings
i had to recover with serial cable..
original firmware successfully loading(1.08,1.09), but b6 from it:
Firmware Upload Error!
The uploaded file was not accepted by the DNS-323. Please return to the previous page and select a valid upgrade file.
and with serial cable kermit protocol getting error by uploading ramdisk.
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AciDCooL wrote:
I have a /mnt/md0 because im using JBOD.
I've edited the fun_plug script but it won't boot
Assign a label to the filesystem where you want to install DEBNAS, and Alt-F will mount the filesystem by label (but keep reading, it will not work)
Go to Disk->Filesystems and enter HD_a2 in the Label input field, and then "Set Label" in the "FS Operations". The filesystem will be unmounted and remounted, so now you have a filesytem mounted as /mnt/HD_a2, as debnas expects.
You might have to stop services first if the filesystem is in use.
Drop the debnas-0.5.tar.bz2 tarball in /mnt/HD_a2, and execute (copy and paste into the command line) the following commands
# fragments of the first fun_plug cd /mnt/HD_a2 tar -xzf debnas-0.5.tar.bz2 rm debnas-0.5.tar.bz2 tar -xf linux.tar -C /mnt/HD_a2 rm linux.tar # fragments of the second fun_plug # Root DISK1 export DISK1=/mnt/HD_a2 export DISTDIR=linux cd $DISK1 mount --bind $DISK1 $DISTDIR$DISK1 mount --bind / $DISTDIR/mnt/root mount --bind /dev $DISTDIR/dev mount --bind /sys $DISTDIR/sys #mount --bind /sys/crfs $DISTDIR/sys/crfs # non-existing in alt-f #mount --bind /web $DISTDIR/web # non-existing in alt-f mount --bind /proc $DISTDIR/proc cp -f /proc/mounts $DISTDIR/etc/mtab rm -f $DISTDIR/etc/fstab touch $DISTDIR/etc/fstab cp -f /etc/resolv.conf $DISTDIR/etc hostname >$DISTDIR/etc/hostname cp -f /etc/hosts $DISTDIR/etc $DISK1/$DISTDIR/boot/chroot $DISK1/$DISTDIR /boot/linuxrc
Just to get a "/mnt/HD_a2/linux/boot/chroot: can't resolve symbol '__stdin'" error message
This is a well know problem regarding toolchain incompatibilities between Alt-F and Optware packages. It looks like debnas has the same problem... sorry
If someone wants to pursue this issue, he will be welcome.
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gazsiazasz wrote:
Flashed alt-f b6 bricked my nas(A1 hw)... upgrade from b5 w/ resetting settings
i had to recover with serial cable..
ah, and have you done it after or before MrGastoso report under the topic "RE install"?
http://dns323.kood.org/forum/viewtopic. … 024#p40024
original firmware successfully loading(1.08,1.09), but b6 from it:
I don't understand.
Have you tried to flash Alt-F using dlink firmware? After flashing it under Alt-F and failing?
Firmware Upload Error!
The uploaded file was not accepted by the DNS-323. Please return to the previous page and select a valid upgrade file.
Of course. Have you read the Alt-F installation instructions, step 4?
http://code.google.com/p/alt-f/wiki/HowToInstall
"You can't flash Alt-F with the vendor's firmware. This is deliberate."
and with serial cable kermit protocol getting error by uploading ramdisk.
I don't understand this statement. Can you elaborate?
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jcard,
Thanks for your detailed message, for the time being I'm going back to original firmware and try DEBNAS.
The main reason I bought the DNS-323 is the usability of SABnzbd. So I can trow out my old power consuming amd2800+ sempron machine.
I don't like the idea of using an old filesystem like ext3. Maybe in the future there will be a way of using SABnzbd on this nice firmware.
Thanks allot for your input regarding this issue.
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jcard wrote:
gazsiazasz wrote:
Flashed alt-f b6 bricked my nas(A1 hw)... upgrade from b5 w/ resetting settings
i had to recover with serial cable..ah, and have you done it after or before MrGastoso report under the topic "RE install"?
http://dns323.kood.org/forum/viewtopic. … 024#p40024
after.. but i dont read this topic before now..
jcard wrote:
original firmware successfully loading(1.08,1.09), but b6 from it:
I don't understand.
Have you tried to flash Alt-F using dlink firmware? After flashing it under Alt-F and failing?
ive flashed debian netinstall image first, and dlink original firmware from it using this method:
http://www.cyrius.com/debian/orion/d-li … stall.html
after flashing altf and failing yep.
jcard wrote:
Firmware Upload Error!
The uploaded file was not accepted by the DNS-323. Please return to the previous page and select a valid upgrade file.Of course. Have you read the Alt-F installation instructions, step 4?
http://code.google.com/p/alt-f/wiki/HowToInstall
sorry.. no
jcard wrote:
"You can't flash Alt-F with the vendor's firmware. This is deliberate."
and with serial cable kermit protocol getting error by uploading ramdisk.
I don't understand this statement. Can you elaborate?
with this method:
http://www.cyrius.com/debian/orion/d-li … overy.html
ive tired install altf b6 once more. kernel flashed sucessfully, but at the end of flashing ramdisk i get not enough flash memory error, and then rebooted and some checksum error
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jcard wrote:
Sorry to answer so late, but I'v been away.
Is fine, not so hurry, thx for your input.
Besides, how to make use of the default dir for Public (RO), because access denied even I login as root.
I noticed that my B1 never can lower than 40C temp even idle for more than a day, it obviously hotter than the vendor FW when idle, any idea? Is that because of Alt-F without sleep mode? FYI, I am putting my B1 in 24C room temp, 2x 2TB WD Caviar Green, EXT4 & RAID1.
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kncgcg wrote:
jcard wrote:
Sorry to answer so late, but I'v been away.
Is fine, not so hurry, thx for your input.
Besides, how to make use of the default dir for Public (RO), because access denied even I login as root.
I noticed that my B1 never can lower than 40C temp even idle for more than a day, it obviously hotter than the vendor FW when idle, any idea? Is that because of Alt-F without sleep mode? FYI, I am putting my B1 in 24C room temp, 2x 2TB WD Caviar Green, EXT4 & RAID1.
-You have to put files in the Public (RO) by other means, such as ftp. Or drop the files in the Public (RW) and use Setup->Directories to move the files [edited: wrong, directories, not files] to the RO directory.
-What fan speed does the status page indicates?
Or to have its history, go to System->Utilities->System log, and record the fan and speed events.
My fan lower speed is about 1950 RPM, perhaps yours stops at a higher speed?
Go to Services->System->syctrl->configure, read the help page (the (?) icon next to the page title) and play with the settings.
-Do your disks spin down? Again, look at the log. A user also with WD disks has reported that their disks do not spin down, please follow the discussion "disk spin up and spindown" on the Alt-F discussion group http://groups.google.com/group/alt-f/topics
Last edited by jcard (2011-01-08 17:59:44)
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